THE ROBERT W. WHITAKER ARCHIVE

GO BNP! | 2009-11-20

The BNP just won a biggie in the last elections.

I would like to see bumper stickers saying, "Isn't there room in the WHOLE WORLD for ONE British Culture?" This is the obvious answer to "multiculturalism," at least obvious to ME.

Some 22% of Britons say they will "consider" voting BNP. When you realize that means "Nazi" in every publication they read, that is quite a large number.

Someone once asked me what I would advise some European party to do, since I am a recognized political expert. I replied, "I would advice that Party to let me live in that country for a few years."

I haven't been keeping up with British politics. I get a free National Review every two weeks, and they were terrified by the BNP's breakthrough in this last election. Anything respectable conservatives hate deserves a second look. William Buckley was the only national commentator to endorse Europe's prison-for Hate Laws.

But if I understand British politics somewhat, it is hard for an American to understand how MUCH government they have. So Griffin may talk about housing, which strikes us as a non-issue, but the British Government has responsibilities in housing which would astound an American.

I am always open to correction on this point.

Also, we underestimate the amount of control government has here because of federalism. Britain is centralized, which means that, in theory, every law is made in London. This is largely still true theoretically despite the Scottish Parliament and the European Parliament. I think that has had an affect on our psychology. Our governments tell us where we can live, what the interest rates will be, where our stores will be, and all that.

But it looks different to us when the head of government directly addresses housing, for example. The British are comfortable with "the government" handling all these things whereas we fool ourselves by saying that there is no THE government, but "t he country," "the State," the Federal Government" each having their own regulations. If one government was directly responsible for these things, as in Britain, we would feel over governed.

Actually there is an awfully lot of local government in Britain, which we inherited, so this centralization is more theoretical than we like to admit. As I say, they are theoretically centralized and we are theoretically federalized. But we have about as little contradiction of Washington here as they do in Britain.

The last thing I would recommend to someone running for President would be to talk all that much about housing regulations. But I have lived in Britain, which is the only reason I happen to know why Griffin has to.

I am acutely aware when I am an outsider. Not least because I am enough of an insider to know what an outsider can MISS.

But I think a bumper sticker saying "Is there not enough room in the WHOLE WORLD for ONE Danish Culture" would be excellent in that country. It would not interfere with anything they are doing, and bumper stickers are an American specialty.

MARK, THIS IS NOT A CHURCH | 2007-08-16

About a thousand times I have dealt with a discouraged pro-white who wondered whether this sorry crowd was worth saving. Several hundred times I was that pro-white.

Yes, Mark, I understand.

I have to remind myself that, torchlight parades and Triumph o the Will nowithstanding, we ae not a Opera here. We are not trying to save a set of moral giants. We are trying to save the only part of the world thqt is not a group of large ants like the Orient, declining and falling as they build huge, pointless stuff.

Our Bible roots are still there and many of us do not see any point if the white race's glory does not come from Above or from some Light that falls indifferently on different Cultures a la Yockey.

After all the drama others can offer, our task sounds a bit drab: We are trying to save white skin because nothing else matters. You can have Great Civilizations that stagnate and make big noises and leave monumental ruins. That's impressive, but not a billionth as impressive as a Nova.

Now THAT'S impressive.

The problem is that the Nova, in itself, is unimportant. Likewise Great Civlizations, a la Ozymadius.

You can know all there is to know about Chinese Civilizatio or Native American culture, but i is POINTLESS. Nothing about them tells us anything we need to know TODAY.

SF had a debate about whether blacks invented the banjo. OK for a discussion, but who cares?

You learn about history only by studying white history. Black "History" is all about how WE handled THEM and some dream-fulfillment about Great Black Civilizatios.

Worrying about white morality must be left to religion, including the ones that don't CALL themselves religions.

Whites are the only game in town. They are the only thing above large insects.

You do not save children because they are nice. You just save the future.

There are plenty of Morality Plays. We are not one of them.

Whites can go to the stars. Whether they wipe their noses in the interim is not our problem.

JIMBO MAKES EXCELLENT POINTS | 2004-11-23

"Bob,

"1. When you get on religion, you start acting like a liberal in that you set up a strawman and then knock him down. That is easy to do, but beneath someone of your intelligence.

The points you try to make about these things don't require a dismissal of the O.T. Christ condemned the hypocrisy of the religious leaders of his day whose job who made the laws of God "of none effect" by their doubletalk and blind "traditions". He didn't just quote the O.T. because that was what was around him, but showed how he fulfilled the prophecies contained in it. The pharisees knew who he was, which was why they killed him.

"Most of our preachers today have twisted the O.T. and NT to fit in with the zeitgeist of equality and other leftist poison, many probably unaware of how far off they have gotten. Zionism and Bush worship are cases in point.

Race-mixing is clearly condemned in the O.T., in no uncertain terms, yet most of the churches preach the opposite. Dueteronomy Ch. 28 outlines the judgement to befall those who turn from God's laws, and describes our situation in America to a T.

"The NT and O.T. are seminal to our entire civilization, and deeply shaped the Southern heart and mind.

As CS Lewis once wrote about people who dismissed the Bible as silly nonsense, people who don't understand books written for adults shouldn't talk about them in public.

"Your readers expect a higher level from you, Bob, consistent with many of your other insights.

Comment by Jimbo — 11/23/2004 @ 1:54 am "

Jimbo,

These are excellent points. I know I am a bumbling amateur when it comes to religion. I was not called to preach.

I would be very happy if people would stop preaching at me so I could get off it.

But no one gets the least bit upset when Sean Hannity blandly announced that Jesus died on the cross for interracial dating.

If CS Lewis said that only adults should deal in religion, he is contradicting some else who said that "of such is the Kingdom of Heaven." So I doubt seriously that is what Lewis meant.

To me the Old Testament is NOT religion. My ancestors who were burned alive for being Odinists had a theology which CS Lewis described as far more beautiful than the Old Testament. He said the Greek mythology came in second the O.T. third.

The Avesta of the Magi who accepted Christ was at least equal theologically to the Old Testament. And they accepted Christ without a word of the Old Testament.

All of these are fine mythologies to know about. We have the one that wasn't burned, the Old Testament. The fact that it was not burned does not make it especially holy.

I have the same fondness for the Old Testament that any country Bible Belter has. But there is nothing about it that is religion to me.

As CS Lewis said, Christianity is based on two things: the salvation through Christ and the Resurrection.

Then CS Lewis gave all the other religions a role in salvation, which strikes me as absurd. He said that somehow they all meet the criterion of salvation through Christ, though he didn't know exactly how.

Huh?

Then Richard says that is true of Jews only. Only they get a special pass when they accept Christ after death.

Right, Richard?

Huh?

I'll give Jerry Falwell this: he says Jews are damned.

But he says the modern state of Israel is holy.

Huh?

And all these people preach at ME.

Let me repeat: I revere the Old Testament, the incomplete Old Testament in the King James Version, as part of my Tradition. Its JHWH or Jehovah has little relation to the Father of whom Jesus spoke. The latter part of the Old Testament that Jesus was familiar with was written in Greek, but Luther was ignorant of that, so he only accepted the older version that was written in Hebrew.

To Luther, Holy = in Hebrew.

That is not religion.

I am not a theologian, but I do know a LOT about history. And, unlike a professional theologian, my livelihood does not depend on rewriting history.

Unlike the theologian, there is nothing holy about my history. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I won't go to pieces if everything I say is absurd.

I have faith the size of mustard seed. That faith is in 1) the Resurrection and 2) Salvation through, and ONLY through, Christ.

Your Old Testament may be the Avesta or Odinism or any other. You should REVERE it. But it is not religion.

Please look at the "Huh?" comments above. There are no self-contradictory statements in my simplistic, childish Christianity.

There are only two theological points in my entire religion, a child could understand them, and I state those as MY beliefs. I am not dictating YOUR beliefs.

But when Sean Hannity tells me that if I am a Christian I have no right to object to interracial dating, my reaction is not friendly. When Jerry Falwell tells me I must be willing to die for the state of Israel, my reaction is not friendly.

These are NOT theological points. These are POLITICAL points. And my business IS politics.

It will not do to keep insisting that Communism hasn't worked because all twenty or thirty Communist states "misinterpreted" True Communism.

It will not do to keep saying that the only reason Lewis and Hannity and Falwell get absurd is because they "misinterpret" the Old Testament.

Every time someone takes Karl Marx for truth, he ends up committing crimes in Marx's name. When people equate the Old Testament with religion, they start burning people alive or worshiping Israel or demanding interracial dating or making other nutcase statements that are, to me, pure blasphemy.

Worship as you choose. But do not quote the Old Testament to me AS RELIGION.

That is ALL I ask.

ELIZABETH | 2006-09-23

When I talked about the desperation in academia to prove INdians didn't kill hte mammoths and giant sloths, Elizabeth added a comment about the "balds" in Appalachia. These are mountain tops that Indians regularly burned off, destroying the trees. She also pointed out that large areas of the East where the "nature-;oving" Indians lived were reduced to prairie.

Here isa comment from Marshall de Bruhl's 1993 life of Sam Houston. It is a grovelingly politically correct book in general, but he did let this slip. He was discussing hte fact that white settlers of the Shanandoah Valley found it already cleared. He explained htis by the fact that, in order to get herding animals to hunt there, the Indians burned it off every year:

"The standard portrait of the native Amerians as benign ecologists is somewhat marred by this practice. One forester obserrved that had this seasonal burning xontinued, in a few centuries Vorginia would have beomce eitehr a PRAIRIE or a desert."

You know those temples that are found inthe middle of the Central American jungles? It turned out that the Indians built up civilizations there and destroyed the trees and brought on doughts and flooding that brought down each civilization. The jungle, with its thin, Amazon-like soil, then grew over it.