#11 Harumphty Dumpty | 2013-02-24 17:41
There's an inevitable development that concerns me that is happening already as the Mantra gains more success. Pro-whites who think the key to reaching the White masses is to expose "Zionist power" will piggyback on the Mantra and associate its phrases in the public mind with their own phrasings that anti-whites have already loaded in their own favor, thus causing audiences to transfer some of their prejudicial feeling to the Mantra phrasings.
Comment #1 below is one I posted at SF a few days ago ago to a guy who apparently does this a lot on youtube, and with some success in promoting some small booklet he's written about Zionist power. He was so crushed (no exaggeration) by my comment that after some correspondence I agreed that he could request its removal and include in his request a statement from me that I was agreeable to its removal if that was the moderator's decision. My agreement was in part because I'm a soft touch who's easily made to feel bad for making someone else feel bad (other than anti-whites), and partly because I'd already posted comment #2 and I felt it made the same point pretty well. And largely because I didn't have any ready advice...but I should have waited and gotten some! Because I think I made the wrong decision. It maybe would have been better to leave him crushed and fearing being crushed again and again and again if he continued, and to leave a warning for others who would do the same.
So for the future, what do you all...and especially you, Bob, if you care to comment, and Horus also if he sees this, but also everyone,...what do you think? The pro-whites who may do this sort of thing are much greater in number than us and could cause great damage, but hopefully they are too anti-mantra to use mantra until it has become too widespread for them to do much harm anyway (?)...but in the future, when we see this happening, should we:
1. Ignore it.
2. politely but firmly oppose it.
3. kick their sorry butts to hell and back as an example of what awaits them and anyone else we see doing it!
Comment #1:
Originally Posted by British74
The Zionists are deliberately destroying all Western countries! They immigrated into our nations and then secretly declared war upon us!
They conspired to take control of our nation's infrastructure through carefully orchestrated acts of TREASON! They became our Bankers, Politicians & media owners. Their goal is to obliterate the middle class!!
For a FREE informative BOOKLET & video on the Zionist-engineered INTENTIONAL destruction of White people go to:
That's the comment you put at the end of your string of screwy "Mantra" posts that you wrote to your video that uses one of the ladies in the video that's the subject of our STOP WHITE GENOCIDE White House petition #5.
Are you out to do a hatchet job on the Mantra, or are you just sincerely deluded?
Do us the kindness of listening to this 18-minute podcast and reading carefully Linux's and my initial posts on the thread to it:
Beefcake's Bootcamp Episode 9: DO NOT TAILGATE [linked]
If you're not able to understand that and accept it, and I don't believe you will be since you show no signs of having made the least effort to find out what we're about, just leave the Mantra alone and do your own thing, since you weaken the Mantra every time you use it the way you do.
The effectiveness of the Mantra depends on it being used by itself and not with other material!
British 74, the jingle is, "Winstons taste good, like a cigarette should."
Not, "Winstons taste good like a cigarette should, and so do Camels."
You are clueless, you have no understanding at all of what you are handling, so just put it down and leave it be, since every time you touch it you do more harm than good.
You remind me of a fellow I knew here in Berkeley who had never taken a single physics course, but believed he'd developed a cosmology that was the final answer to the riddle of the universe, and he went around bothering everyone who had any interest in physics.
We have plenty of people at BUGS who are easily as smart as you and who've discussed the different parts of the Mantra, as well as how to use it, upside down and sideways. But do you bother to study the ground they've already covered?
No! Because you think that YOU are smarter than ALL of them even before you are EVEN A BEGINNER!
Pure nuttiness!
Comment #2:
One Mantra-friendly pro-White has written that pro-Whites who think that pointing out the Zionist influence is the first priority are identifying the con man before they've identified the con.
British 74 is trying to do both at the same time (and as Glory 14 points out, is limiting himself narrowly as to who the con men are).
I don't think that pointing out the con and the con men at the same time works either. It will take a good while before the con itself...White Genocide...is even accepted, much less when it's decked out with a prejudicial subject that whites have been deeply trained to think of as indicating evil on the part of anyone who raises it.
I say let the Mantra do its thing unencumbered by in effect having swastikas nailed to it, and let those who think the Zionist angle is the most important message go ahead and deliver that message to the very small minority of Whites who will be able to receive it.
But don't tack the Mantra onto messages about "Zionists," since the huge majority of your White audience are going to depart from your remarks with no more effect than having been prejudiced against the Mantra by your having tacked it onto a topic they've all been trained to deep prejudice against.
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Bugsters, my present feeling is to message B74 soon and tell him that the next time I see him doing the same thing I'm going to repost the same post #1 whose removal I agreed to this time.
But this is not an issue I feel certain on, and I really do need to know what others think.
My thought today is that it doesn't matter if we antagonize pro-Whites by taking a harsh attitude toward THEIR using the Mantra without training and mixing it in with stuff we feel does it harm. That's a more reasonable request from us by anyone's point of view than was our previously just being harsh with their non-acceptance of the Mantra.