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DIVERSITY = WHITE GENOCIDE = SELF-HATRED = SICK!!! | 2014-06-24

In his reply to the article below, Jason says:

"Bob, I'm going to suggest you go ahead with advanced classes in political math and forget about those of us who trip up along the way. It's more important to get the advanced material out to those who can handle it. In fact, trying to make sure the slowest guy in the class gets it before you go forward to the next lesson will never work."

The greatest flattery is imitation. The best way I know to show you appreciate good advice is to follow it.

So, I have expanded our equation from Diversity = White Genocide to add = Self-Hatred = SICK!!

In his reply to the last article, Genseric points out:

"Bob, the momentum from the last three or four years has been stymied. The fact is, the sheer quantity of mantra media impressions is down, way down. We were averaging somewhere between 3-4 million per annum, in the U.S. alone."

Solid advice from Jason and solid stats from Genseric!

It all adds up to this: Is this the time for us to CAREFULLY expand our message?

We have spent YEARS learning what that CAREFULLY means.

Repeat: CAREFULLY. Let us keep the gains we have made -- My God!!

THREE MILLION repeats in the US alone, each year, by what can hardly even be called a handful of us!

The Seminar is over.

Advanced math has been demanded.

The expanded equation attacks two underlying sub-messages anti-whites keep sending out.

The first is that they are Idealistic, because they are whites who hate whites.

The second is that whites hating themselves is somehow Modern and Progressive.

The fact is that self-hatred is a sickness. This self-hatred is at the basis of our increasingly sick society.

Secondly, equally important, there is absolutely nothing Modern or Progressive about it. Even the admittedly -- and proudly -- SLOWLY changing Catholic theology has rejected the sick old concept of men whipping and torturing themselves to somehow please God.

There is certainly nothing progressive or Modern about self-hatred. It is as old as Western Christianity, and as sick as the Inquisition.

What do you think, BUGSERS?

Audio Article Discussion with Bob

COMMENTS (64)

#1 time for freedom | 2014-06-24 11:14

"Anti-White Pathology = Sickness = Diversity = White Genocide"

#2 Henry Davenport | 2014-06-24 16:34

Maybe this for a title of one of our July White House messages:

Include this equation in Common Core curriculum: Diversity = White Genocide = Self-Hatred = SICK!!!

(For swarming today, please give this a look):

http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/topic/swarm-montana-with-this-white-house-message/

#3 WmWhite | 2014-06-24 17:14

I'm not the typical white American, in that I'm "pessimistic" about the future of white people in this country. In my opinion, successful resistance to white genocidal policies, laws and education etc etc in the USA has been limited to only a few fringe groups like ours ...which most Pavlovian whites immediately visualize as: racist, Nazis, kkk, bigots.

Our enemies have done a good job, over the last 60-70 years, in conditioning our brain-dead white American brethren, into believing Diversity is the only trendy path for any self-righteous white (who wants to be considered normal and fashionable) to take.

The only REAL resistance I see today is coming from Europe. Only in Europe do I see "real live" pro-white political parties (with teeth) fighting white genocide.

I'm not sure what makes the general population of white Americans so eager to accept their own genocide, nor do I have a viable solution other than BUGS, where only a few 100 (out of 223-million whites) have been detoxed from the "all encompassing," anti-white propaganda. A propaganda white Americans seem to relish and bath themselves in daily.

Diversity = White Genocide = Stupid & Sick = Self-Hatred

#4 mandela | 2014-06-24 21:14

This is the most importaint site for our people. I do not post much anymore but my own pro-White website gets over 1000 views a day and there is plenty of Mantra on there. Bobs new equation looks great as usual

#5 WmWhite | 2014-06-26 10:18

Share with us your site address @mandela ...I don't want to miss out on a site that gets thousands of views a day.

Your first name wouldn't be Nelson, would it? Now there's a pro-white provocateur. lol

#6 Laura | 2014-06-24 21:58

Attached at the bottom of the article is an audio of Bob discussing his article.

#7 Undercover Lover | 2014-06-24 22:12

I'm not sure I agree with Jason or Genseric but regardless...

I was watching a TV show today called Vikings. In this show there is a priest who when exposed to various stories of the Norse religion spoke a line "There is only One God." This is a priest who swore celibacy and all that "good" stuff. Anyways, it reminded me of the anti-white line that "There is only One Race, The Human Race." It further confirmed to me that this "Political Correctness" really is a religion and that all this anti-whitism is part of the self-mutilation that the priests of our modern age advocate.

I think it would certainly make a good White Rabbit Cartoon with the PC priests repeating "There is only one Race" and other such lines as well as abusing little white children.

#8 mandela | 2014-06-24 23:19

will listen to the audio, but if it is non-Whites calling for diversity then it is not = to self hatred

#9 Johnny Mantraseed | 2014-06-25 07:49

Bob,

I love ya' and respect the hell out of you. I don't like this new expansion, though. I know that you want honest responses, and not just sycophantic ones from Yes Men (not speaking of the responses in this thread that have already been madejust speaking generally), so I'll give my rationale:

I will begin my critique with the weakest criticism, and end with (IMO) the silver bullet.

Firstly, on the level of raw aesthetics and gut judgments, the new meme is clunky (from all the ='s), and would probably not be used by an actual marketing or political campaign. Whether it's "Oh yes we can", "The pause that refreshes", or "Iran is going to wipe Israel off the map", memes are usually made of words. They are short, but they are still words.

"'Diversity' = White Genocide" works, despite the "=", because it's pithy, short, and clean. It's also worth noting that most BUGSters still preferred "'Diversity' is a codeword for White Genocide" when limited banner/ and/or bumper sticker space wasn't an issue.

"Diversity = White Genocide = Self-Hatred = SICK!!!" Is that going on a bumper sticker? Do we know of any of our enemy's wildly successful memes that used that many mathematical symbols? Try making a sentence out of that, and you are immediately out of the realm of "Oh yes we can".

SILVER BULLET: If you think about it, this new expansion subtly puts the guilt-onus of our genocide back on US. If this is the new meme, good luck convincing garden variety pro-Whites to keep calling it "genocide" (most pro-Whites, and even many AMPWs, currently call it "genocide", thanks to us).

It has been a long, fierce, and fevered battle to get people to say "genocide" instead of "suicide".

and, IMO, we have largely won that battle, at least in pro-White circles. Let's not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Let's look at the expansion piece-by-piece:

Diversity: The expansion doesn't have the quotation marks, which normally serve to both subtly delegitimize the word, and implicate some "fishiness"/disingenuousness therein.

Nevertheless, I'll assume that was an oversight. Moving on, BUGSters speak of "diversity" as something that is IMPOSED on all and only White countries. We call it a genocidal scam. We blame Anti-Whites, and particularly the anti-White Elite, for this.

White Genocide: Again, groups don't genocide themselves. Genocide is imposed on and done to a group of people. The core of the Mantra is the charge of genocide. This dovetails perfectly with how we speak of "diversity", that is, situations that are being done to us, and imposed on us, by others.

Self-Hatred: Red light! Warning sign! Till now, we have been building momentum, with "Diversity" and "White Genocide", for a charge against an elite/guilty party. But this new expansion takes that meme-energy of accusation, the charge of genocide, and bends it back toward us. White Anti-White Elites and Semite Anti-White Elites don't genocide us from their own self-hatred. "Self-hatred" can only be talking about the self-hatred of White people.

Are White children being subjected to genocide because of their self-hatred? Are we here at BUGS being subjected to genocide because of our self-hatred? Are the majority of people in White countries who would close the bordersand who White Flight away from "diversity" whenever they canbeing subjected to genocide because of their self-hatred?

I will agree that "suicide" is a "lens" through which some of our problems could be seen and analyzed. However, AS A BUGSTER, I would, firstly, NEVER SAY THAT "publicly"talk about mixed messages! Secondly, I think the vast majority of the current, alleged "suicidal" impulses of our people are a direct result of an objective genocide. Thirdly, "genocide" is simply more accurate.

Imagine a serial killer who has trapped a woman. He keeps her in a dungeon, floods it with rats and parasites, and has recordings of thousands of voices telling her that she is evil and needs to kill herself. Eventually she does. I suppose there is a place in that story to "talk about" suicide, but that suicide wouldn't have happened without the physical oppression and psychological torture. Most people would not blame the woman.

That sums up my thoughts on "White Suicide", or "suicide" as a "lens" through which to view our situation.

SICK!!!: A cutting comment on the aforementioned, alleged White Psychology.

In this expansion, what started out as a monumental charge of worldwide genocidethat we hope ends up in money punishments/ICC/etc.ends up subtly blaming the victim, and proceeds to comment on the alleged White pathological psychology.

To me, it is as obvious as the rising sun that the subtext/thrust of this expansion would be better written as "'Diversity' = White Suicide = Self-Hatred = SICK!!!"

... and that isn't Mantra.

P.S. I haven't listened to the audio yet, and don't know when I'll have the chance, so I wanted to make this now, while the article is still fresh. It is possible that I'm not fully understanding your reasoning, and that you expounded upon it in the audio.

#10 Johnny Mantraseed | 2014-06-25 09:05

An Addendum:

Bob, I should have made it clear that you said, "The first is that they are Idealistic because they are whites who hate whites." You were talking about the self-hatred of White anti-Whites.

However, I was basing my comments on the fact that I am convinced that 99% of the people who read it will subconsciously link "White Genocide" to a general notion of White Self-Hatred.

IMO, if a meme would need clarified and explained every time, it shouldn't be used.

Also, White Genocide isn't fully explained by the Self-Hatred of White Anti-White elites. Though we are not N&J'ers, and don't stress the "J"-connection as other pro-Whites, we also can't really leave them outand they wouldn't fall under the category of Self-Hating White Elites.

I think the latter half could be made into a meme of it's own, a short sword thrust. Ad hoc and off-the-cuff, "Self-hating White people aren't 'modern' or 'progressive'they're SICK!"

But I still think the "... White Genocide = Self-Hatred ..." part is highly confusing and misleading, and will lead people into thoughts of "White Suicide", if only subconsciously.

#11 Jason | 2014-06-26 18:16

We don't want to slide over from White genocide to White suicide, that's for sure.

But we do need to understand the traits that make our people easy to exploit. I suspect our genes play a role. Whites have a highly developed moral sense. I can't imagine Japanese guilt or Jewish guilt or Black guilt.

#12 Yankee Rebel | 2014-06-25 09:00

I like JM's example of the serial killer. In our (Whites) case, it is a combination of years of anti-White propaganda and ages old negative religious morality which caused White people to believe self- hatred was good. Socially conditioned self- hatred would naturally lead to group genocide like Jonestown or "Diversity" programs. My simple answer to a self-hating White was, "Go Kill Yourself Then You Anti- White!" when I was confronted by a young White man who yelled "F#*K White People" during my solo White Man March protest. I figured I did not have time to waste on someone that was so far gone and insane.

#13 Secret Squirrel | 2014-06-25 15:25

"Go Kill Yourself Then You Anti- White!"

Fantastic.

#14 Horus | 2014-06-25 11:56

While suicide and self hatred applies to the White AntiWhites. I have to agree with Mantraseed ...the above "White Genocide = Self-Hatred" is confusing.

We have seen Whites all over Western Civilization vote against immigration. In America, in the mid 90's in California and in recent years Arizona. And we can go on and on about Europe. The elites of course toss the votes out the window. This does not represent a suicide by mass numbers of Whites. I have heard Bob talk before about the differentiation.

There is a difference between the suicidal self hatred of SOME groups of Whites (like the current White AntiWhites) and White Genocide. Our elites are simply taking advantage of this tenancy to push White Genocide. But I would not mix the two in a mantra like the above title.

Furthermore, Bob referred to Daniel's sound statistics. In retail they have a saying of late:"Media Impressions do not buy things ...people do". And Media Impressions do not spread the Mantra Bugsers do. There is a lot of voodoo in Media Impressions.

I do not know how he is calculating his stats. But I can guarantee he is not taking into account the change in the Swarm composition over the last 24 months. And this change is having a great effect on our message. But at the same time you are not going to be able to gauge media impressions the same. I can also guarantee you that Daniel is not counting a trending hashtag correctly in his calculations.....IF at all. For our type of "advertising" the trending hashtag on the day of the White Man March alone was conservatively worth more than nearly all the Media impressions we had in North America for the previous year or two (and some would argue based on the numbers and the length of time of the hashtag trending....it was worth more than all the media impression we had ever garnered). Remember once you see something .....you cannot un see it. We ain't worrying about conversions ratios to buy goods. I could go on and give few more major examples.

I can get with Daniel to try to work out something going forward to redo how they are figuring media impressions. The way the Swarm was figuring it 2 years ago.....ain't going to give an accurate pic of what was going on. There is a lot of voodoo with these things. We certainly do not want Bob running around getting worked up over inaccuracies (especially regarding something like Media Impressions which he knows nothing about)

#15 Secret Squirrel | 2014-06-25 15:23

"We have seen Whites all over Western Civilization vote against immigration. In America, in the mid 90s in California and in recent years Arizona. And we can go on and on about Europe. The elites of course toss the votes out the window. This does not represent a suicide by mass numbers of Whites. I have heard Bob talk before about the differentiation.

There is a difference between the suicidal self hatred of SOME groups of Whites (like the current White AntiWhites) and White Genocide. Our elites are simply taking advantage of this tenancy to push White Genocide"

All the elites have is money and the white politicians that will take the money.

I think it was Jason that pointed out, Republican politicians are always anti-immigration on their way up. Then when they hit the big leagues and the big donors, they turn open borders.

#16 Secret Squirrel | 2014-06-25 15:28

I understand that Vlad the Impaler didn't save his country, until he dealt with the treason problem. The nobles were taking money from the Turks. This problem is old.

#17 Daniel Genseric | 2014-06-25 17:23

Sorry, Horus. According to the almighty internet god, otherwise known as Google, you're wrong. Google IS a way of quantifying, or measuring, our impact online. Now, and yes, how that translates into word of mouth and how many people huddle around a computer screen to "Take a gander at this pic, Marv" is another matter altogether. Nobody can quantify EVERY like, link, wink, nod, nudge, or share. However, we will continue to compare "apples to apples" as long as we remain consistent in our approach.

Now, for the not-so-good news:

"#whitemanmarch" = "About 2,890 results"

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%22%23whitemanmarch%22

"White Man March" = "About 678,000 results"

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=%22white%20man%20march%22

Those are the numbers for that event and that is LARGELY the one and only 2014 splash. Although, I would like to get some feedback on why and how many were realized through the Red Ice Creations event. It might seem like I am complaining, but this is the report. A report you won't get from most others by the way. I am strictly measuring mantra-related events. The other numbers Bob mentions are estimated computations, but they are close - in terms of what we can measure on google. If you have A NUMBER (and an explanation) that you'd like to add, then great.

I guess everyone would probably like to see it. And, as always, I remain open to dialogue and CONSTRUCTIVE suggestions/criticisms.

Edit: I'll leave you all on a high note.

18.2 million mantra media impressions to date - 17.6 million on 'white genocide' alone! http://tinyurl.com/ka8fora

http://tinyurl.com/kjncbl8

650k impression on #ARIACWFAW anti-racist is a code word for anti-white

600k impression on #DIACWFWG diversity is a code word for white genocide (counted as 'white genocide' impressions)

18k impressions on Angelo John Gage's Eurocide

#18 Henry Davenport | 2014-06-25 18:20

20,000 hits on google for "White genocide petitions," in quotation marks. (But I don't call them "petitions" any more, because the word makes it harder to explain to pro-whites that they are NOT petitions, but are generally just mini-mantras posted in another venue)

#19 Horus | 2014-06-25 20:25

Forgot to include HD. Will start for my own metrics. One thing to watch is the number from month to month and observe any trend. Also keep in mind the impressions in relation to other assets that push the Mantra.

#20 Horus | 2014-06-25 18:31

I like what you are doing at the end there. I think it is an objective way to gauge our twitter progress. Two things to note:

#ARIACWFAW & #DIACWFWG are conversational hashtags. Meaning that if someone is not in the conversation they will not know what they mean. #WhiteGenocide and #AntiWhite are not conversational hashtags. Anyone that sees them can figure out what they are are about. should always be used as well (when you have the room). I only use the main hashtags (antiwhite and whitegenocide) and then if I have room I will use our acronyms (twitter has limitations for the lay reader). Below is a search for AntiWhite I have always watched as well. From the top google listing .....you will realize why. lol

http://goo.gl/q1LKqB

The White Man March website is now directly forwarding all traffic to White Genocide Project. And it is very important to take that into account. Also, you know the impressions for White Genocide are much better now than they were before the "splash" of the White Man March. That would be common sense.

So we would want to pay attn to that as well. Specifically the google along with the traffic trend.

http://goo.gl/n0GQ8K

Just to add to the discussion. There are a couple more things that are important to factor in and are difficult but work in our favor. For those that don't know. Media Impressions is basically how many people see something. Daniel is using Google and that is certainly objective once you get the complete picture.

One of the challenges is that some of largest Swarmers are now Swarming larger. Peter Cottontail is no longer posting the mantra hundreds of times a day. He was one of the masterminds behind White Genocide Project. Which has been more effective with pictures and articles with than just posting the Mantra. Furthermore, Northern European Swarm now run a fast growing website and run one of the most successful Pro White facebook pages on earth. (the largest FB page to push our memes...their reach is ridiculous statistically on any given month). That of course is "This is Europa" . And there are a several other smaller examples. That may not be covered in the stats. But must be considered to be accurate....

http://goo.gl/BycEhH

You will notice our memes, pages, websites are all at the top of the search rankings....this is important as well. Daniel can go into why. ( it says we are doing something)

Also there is one loose variable. We are mostly swarming with pics with the mantra on them. Instead of just posting the mantra like 2 years ago. Pictures always will give a higher impression than just words or just an article. For instance, this is europa can judge the impression on any post ...with a pic pushing our memes (there is some voodoo in how FB judges "impressions").

I will have more to say about this

(the above links are not in quotes...."white genocide project" was not done. etc etc...but you can do it on your own)

#21 Horus | 2014-06-25 19:01

one other note #whitemanmarchprotestsigns was the main hashtag that day and will be better in results that #whitemanmarch

or just add the results to each other for accuracy

#22 Denounce Genocidists | 2014-06-26 02:33

Do you think there are only 298,000 mentions of "Holohoax" on the internet?

Do you think the 5,300 youtube videos with holohoax in the title is in any way an accurate reflection of the use of the word in video productions on that site up to the present time?

Why are you giving Google an exemption from "Why is this information produced?"

#23 Daniel Genseric | 2014-06-26 13:34

298k sounds high!

Do you think N&J-ers have organized or coordinated anything to seed the holohoax meme? Seriously??? I thought you claimed to be a pro? That mistake really appeals to my sense of humor.

You don't like the calculations or their messenger. Who cares. Stop whining and provide YOUR solution. We're waiiiiiting.

And who is granting immunity? Not this guy, that's for sure.

Allow me to make mention that the word "residual" might be added to "(residual) mantra media impressions" to clear up any misinterpretation on your part.

So, are you honestly failing to see what is being worked on here?

If that's the case, at least we started you on LOOKING at some numbers, even if you don't want to or know what to THINK, and more importantly, even if you're too lazy to work on them.

I will try to be crystal clear. Any REAL, concerted effort to quantify, measure, and forecast BUGS' productive impact (online or "IRL") should begin with a LIST of the known projects and when they were rolled out. Even then, many will fall through the cracks because some BUGSters aren't reporting, projects have been memory-holed or re-launched, other reasons I already gave, etc...

Think of this as just another necessary step in the evolution of thought on the genocide of Europids.

BTW, does it bother you that Angelo John Gage's "Eurocide" has nearly just as many hits as the "white house petitions" string does? U mad bro?

Yep. Google is good for NOTHING other than irking "Denounce [undefined in websters']".... [/end sarcasm] ha

#24 Denounce Genocidists | 2014-06-26 14:52

"298k sounds high!

Do you think N&J-ers have organized or coordinated anything to seed the holohoax meme? Seriously??? "

I did`nt say or imply N+J`ers were organized or coordinated.

You seriously don`t think holohoax as a meme has been repeated enough by different parties to be well known amongst internet users despite it`s paltry Google stat?

Let`s see, Pro-white News and Jewsers, Revisionists, Alternative News, Libertarians, non-white Jewsers.

You`re putting your money on the members of all of those groups mostly not being exposed to it.

Right.

#25 Daniel Genseric | 2014-06-26 15:04

It's not a meme, at least not compared to our work.

Again. Stormfront has 280k. So, you are saying they worked TOGETHER to get "holohoax" out to more than 18k people BEYOND that.

I say, that would be a friggin' miracle from what I've seen. It's okay to disagree and I STILL love you, baby. ;)

#26 Horus | 2014-06-26 18:05

I'm ok with Daniels approach. Now that I know what it is. And is openly admitting it's weakness. Stats are Stats. With a consistent message there are going to be some things that are ephemeral. For instance a trending hashtag means nothing most of the time. It is proven you cannot sell producsts with that etc. However, if you happen to get one going and get massive risidual effects. Well then you got a massive amount of media impressions. In this case, the whitemanmarch.com was shut down and all the traffic flowed to White Genocide Project (propelling it to the to 1% of all websites and it has not backed off much ....in fairness it was already growing).

Media Impressions are simply how many times someone sees something. Very tricky. There is some voodoo with this obviously. Daniel's approach is simple. But you got to go wide and cover some ground to get any idea of anything. That is just my opinion. A PR firm would never measure it this way. They would do a few more tricks with expensive software. At one time, I was talking with a PR firm that represented WRR for some ads. So I know a little bit about it.

For instance, under our simple google model. And my above examples of This is Europa and White Genocide Project. Both of these sites/pages auto post to Twitter. They do not use hashtags with the autopost (don't even know if you can). IF they would of been using any the above hashtags over the last 6 months. Daniels end stats would have been a lot nicer. But would this have changed the Media Impressions much for the better? Probably a little bit......Daniel would be happy. And it would be a good idea to do this just for tracking.

Also, lets take for example the sign in Arkansas. AntiRacism is just a CodeWord for Antiwhite. The media impressions for this type of thing are very tricky. Google would only be a fraction. Much trickier than a trending hashtag. I put up a link not long ago from Imgur (see below). And this damn thing has some views. We can safely assume that every view (or nearly 100%) read it. That is a big deal as well. We are not talking about the folks driving by every day or looking at it on Huffington post etc.

http://imgur.com/user/CaptainADHD/favorites/bzyRSaQ

once you see something you cannot unsee it

Ultimately we are looking for memes to show up all over the place. That is the ultimately quantifier....not just some set of statistics.

#27 Horus | 2014-06-26 18:15

Part 2.

Useful tidbits in regards to Media Impressions.

In general but not always....here are some rough guidelines (for our stuff).

1) Articles have a lower media impression than a "similar" video (podcast can be even lower than an article...just depends)

2) A short video is going to have a higher media impression than a long one (long = > 4 minutes)

3) Pics with short memes RULE in the world of media impression. They are the highest and it ain't even close. This is why you see so damn many online. Everyone reads em. And if you think back to all those times you some demotivator online and took an extra second or two to read it. So our mini mantra pics are going to always do better than just posting the mantra.

One of things urs truly has been doing is tweeting out lots of good pics with our memes and all the main hashtags ( i have been adding and will continue to make a point of adding Daniels in group hash tags as well). Then I regurgitate those by running the twitter link on WRR. Based on what we know. Everyone that comes to WRR will have a very shot at seeing and reading our memes. They may not listen to a podcast or watch a video. But statistically we have a good chance of them seeing a pic and glancing over a mini mantra.

http://whiterabbitradio.net/diversity-is-just-a-codeword-whitegenocide

Of course, with twitter, we have another advantage. They don't ban us. So we can really build something. As opposed to other platforms were urs truly has been banned a few dozen times.

#28 Horus | 2014-06-26 18:38

Part 3

Google Cheating us Pro Whites.

We know the ADL has lobbied the shite out of them. Usually Youtube just shuts down someone (youtube and google are the same co.) However in regards to WRR. I have been watching using Daniels above method for some time (since day one). I have not seen anything fishy or odd. And with WRR we are using a common phrase or two. So if google was cheat'n us we might not pick it up on "White Rabbit Radio". But would see something odd for say "follow the white Rabbit" or for horus the avenger. I have never seen anything odd. (you guys can google these common phrases and look at were we rank on the page....not bad considering "Follow the white rabbit" is a well used in the english language)

Now for yours truly. We have two new ones to watch. One start last summer by our friends at the SPLC.

"Tim Murdock White Rabbit" it appears to have had a little bump from the red ice interview were I used my real name

and the newest of all to watch "Red Ice Tim Murdock"

(Red ice is carried far and wide via back links etc....a good interview there can be carried farther and wider than even someone on Alex Jones's channel)

The last is the most significant. Under our models this audience will move our memes into the population at the fastest rate.

Again these are just proxies. Daniel's simple approach is just stats. And you want to wide as possible to get the best idea.

I was watch O'Reilly last night. And he was crying and complaining. They had done a study (several) and there is a whole segment of the American population (shocking number) that does NOT like him. They did an extensive study to find out why. Non one that disliked him could say Why they disliked him. They figured out it was the negative "left wing" biased hit pieces against him that have ingrained a negative image through sheer repetition. He was very upset about this. He was crying it was not fair. I was chuckling. One day in the near or not too distant future everyone is going to believe in White Genocide. And our job is easier. Truth is easier than slander (sometimes :-)) We are just connecting the phenomenon that Whites observe all the time ....to a meme....White Genocide. And I ain't got no bad news for you here today.

(OReilly is concerned because cable news is declining and although he is huge. He is a huge in declining market share AND his audience is old and white. Young Whites go to the internet for their news. We'll see if he takes the Neocons advice and starts trying to appeal to the Mexicans by speaking Spanish. LOL)

#29 Asgardian | 2014-06-25 12:42

Are White Anti Whites suicidal? Probably.

Do they hate themselves? To a degree, im sure.

Are ProWhites suicidal? Nope.

Do we hate ourselves? Double nope.

Suicide is an accurate description as to what white antiwhites are doing to themselves its sick. However its not a true description as to whats happening to normal whites who have White AntiWhites FORCING their own sick self hating policies onto them. For White AntiWhites its suicide. For normal Whites its Genocide.

Now surely everyone here understands that, but most normal whites are just beginning to grasp whats happening to them. The bulb is beginning to flicker lets not blow it out. This will confuse and give a false narrative about whites that dont want genocide.

#30 Henry Davenport | 2014-06-25 14:20

After thinking about it, I had some of the same objections Mantraseed had but not so clearly.

Bob's audio was great and probably should be included in the Porch Talks.

I like Yankee Rebel's approach...it's direct and powerful and points up a contradiction. And it's just a side remark that doesn't take us away from our theme. As with attacking "hate" and "supremacism" as being words that are just used against Whites, contradiction such as appears in the Mantra should probably be at the heart of tactics we take on any new issue. In the audio, Bob's picture of God's manner of taking pleasure in White self-torture is a powerful contradiction and worked for me, but I'm dubious about taking on other's religious sentiments directly.

But getting back to the title of the article as a proposed meme, it occurs to me that if the word "genocide" were being proposed here for the first time, we might also balk at that.

Diversity = White Genocide = Self-Hatred = SICK!!!

Let's note one positive thing about that proposed meme: it associates three powerfully negative terms with "diversity." In the long run that could conceivably be more important than the meme first appearing to be gibberish to the uninitiated, and then being contradictory in the part "White Genocide = Self-Hatred."

When anti-whites start saying that we are doing it to ourselves, that is acceptance of the fact that "it" is happening, at least, and we could certainly devise replies....Mantraseed's serial killer example shows one direction, and the fact mentioned by Horus that Whites have voted against all this immigration at every opportunity (see our Montana White House message of yesterday) but been ignored by the elites is another reply. One-line replies like that don't have to take us into tailgating, or do they? If anti-white comes back on same point, then, "It's clearly genocide, but since you're anti-white and support it, you want to label it something else," or something better, to transition back to our message.

Our message as it's been, maybe I should say. If we bring in "self-hatred," that issue especially in the context we'll be presenting it is inevitably going to capture a lot of attention IMO, which is good per se but possibly would make our message two-fold, which is a whole new ball game.

I haven't convinced myself that the proposed meme could work. As an exercise, if the smart guys above and others would like to now try to devise arguments in favor of the meme and see where that takes us, that could be helpful. I'm reluctant to reject anything from Bob without prematurely, since he can very possibly just be further down the road than we are.

#31 Benjamin Newells | 2014-06-25 14:31

1. Society based on self-hatred=sick society (firmly established by the middle ages)

2. Elites provided sick society with a new, ultimate object of self-hatred: their own people [white people]

3. Solution to ultimate object of self-hatred: elimination of own people through "diversity"

(genocide committed by elites. white people convinced into genociding themselves)

#32 Joe Bug | 2014-06-25 15:05

White people deliberately inflicting on other White people conditions of life calculated to bring about White peoples physical destruction in whole or in part is still genocide. It's not "suicide", it's geNOcide.

#33 Secret Squirrel | 2014-06-25 15:20

Another example, Pol Pot was a Cambodian that killed millions of Cambodians. He was not committing suicide.

#34 Simmons | 2014-06-25 20:50

You guys are making it more difficult than you need to. Here is what I say;

"White guilt is stupid, whoever teaches white guilt is freaking evil"

Do remember folks we are that point that literally the anti-whites are just plain stupid, they know it, the public pretty much knows it and we basically lay it out via the "simple truth."

#35 Denounce Genocidists | 2014-06-26 02:42

Genseric reports/ complains in public on the premier white genocide fighting site on the net that "use of the mantra is "way down according to the great god Google".

Sub amateur, just like the comments going after Duke.

Re: the advanced math equation, I agree with JM and Horus.

#36 Daniel Genseric | 2014-06-26 13:25

You, "sir", are not only misrepresenting my lame attempt at sarcastic humor, you are being unnecessarily divisive with the Duke thing.

THAT's "sub amateur".

#37 Henry Davenport | 2014-06-26 07:26

This is from JASON (he's having password problems):

I really enjoyed the podcast, Bob and Laura please do more.

It's embarrassing to realize our species has been cringing under the false image of a Pervert God for centuries. I wouldn't want to stand before Him and explain that I had taught in Sunday school that He was a despicable monster who loved watching self-torture.

In medieval times, this Pervert God wouldn't even let you commit suicide! You HAD to stay alive and SUFFER. Pervert God wanted to watch you hurt yourself.

Nowadays, this is part of the religion of Political Correctness. There is no personal Pervert God but the whole spirit is still there.

It's pure self-hatred. Self-hatred as a false religion.

I don't know if this can be "meme-ified" right now, but it is very important for BUGSERS to understand this pathology. It's very real, I've seen it all my life. Wacko Environmentalism, anti-Americanism, anti-Whtitism, Indian-worship, animal-worship, anti-science, anti-technology, anti-family all of it stems from this self-hatred.

The way Whites show self-hatred is by elevating tribal forest dwellers living in stone age conditions above Whites. They throw in squirrels and snails as our superiors to boot. Doodle bugs are more valuable than Whites in this religion.

I am not sure how to address it right now, but we, as BUGS, need to understand this is the sickness that genocidal anti-Whites tap into.

[That was from JASON]

#38 Henry Davenport | 2014-06-26 07:30

I don't know if this can be "meme-ified" right now, but it is very important for BUGSERS to understand this pathology.

Right. The audio by Bob deepened my feeling for it a lot.

#39 WmWhite | 2014-06-26 10:40

@Horus, you always bring a sense of clarity to any pro-white conversation and intelligently calm the fanatics from bouncing off the walls ...for which I'm very appreciative.

I also like your new use of hash-tags and other cutting edge communication technologies.

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Bob's audio article "white self-hatred" was grounded solidly on his unobstructed, illusionless observation of reality today.

#40 Henry Davenport | 2014-06-26 11:08

Before you edited, you had this:

Bob's audio article on white self-hatred was profound, once I got past his often repeated phrase: jack(ing)-off. I'm no prude but I cringed from its overuse.

Yeah, that bothered me too...I would have preferred "flogging the log," since to me God was always a rough Paul Bunyan, lumberjack, American sort of God.

#41 WmWhite | 2014-06-26 11:47

Thanks Henry, --not!

So much for my trying to be discreet and sensitive. lol

#42 wretchedWhiterabbit | 2014-06-26 13:31

Cure the SHWA-babies!

Self-Hating White Anti-Whitism is a sickness!

What's more stupid than a White anti-White?

#43 Secret Squirrel | 2014-06-26 20:03

An anti-Mantra Pro White. ;)

#44 Daniel Genseric | 2014-06-26 14:43

Diversity = White Genocide = Self-Hatred = SICK

I can't believe how some people would rather talk on "Where did Genseric get 4 million per year" than they would Bob's point.

Time got it. Well... almost.

I believe the genesis was: one became infected with spiritual sickness, learned to hate thyself, preached for others to hate their neighbor (in accordance with The Golden Rule), their neighbors reciprocated and we became Blessed with liberal amounts of "Diversity", "Tolerance", and "Love" in EVERY white country.

It's so simple, and we all learned this basic moral growing up, "You must learn the difference between opposites; good and evil; right and wrong; day and night; darkness and light; love and hate." I believe were Jesus alive today, he would agree that any medieval program that pledges to pay for "Love" with the sacrifice of 800 million people is rooted in pure evil and hatred.

The UN says that this is genocide and they are right. It just so happens that the victims are white.

Spiritual Sickness=Self Hatred="Diversity"=White Genocide

#45 Jason | 2014-06-26 18:22

Are media impressions roughly the same thing as Google results from a search?

#46 Henry Davenport | 2014-06-26 19:56

Beats me, I understand very little of that discussion.

I only know two things, one small and one big.

1. small thing: the white house "petition" site is an important extension of the Obama persona, and it has the attention of news folk and political folk. So I smile with pleasure that our messages are now part of the furniture there.

2. big thing: our aim is to have "anti-white," "White Genocide," and our other basic phrases be a part of everyday speech just as "racist" is, and my gut produces the statistic that much less than one percent of White Americans have even yet HEARD those two phrases.

I draw a lot of strength from seeing the working page so full of links every day...I assume and hope that our basic focus isn't being unsettled by our experimenting with some new items. We can't let up on the repetition of our basic memes.

#47 Jason | 2014-06-26 22:02

Absolutely right. The to key to ANY future for our people is to keep doing what we are doing and find a few more good women and men to help out.

The advanced material is important but it won't matter if there aren't any White people left.

#48 Daniel Genseric | 2014-06-27 10:50

As Horus alluded to, a "media impression" is a singular person looking at any ad, especially meme-worthy items (i.e. tv segments, interviews, social media, news entries, comments on articles, pictures, videos, tweets, twits, likes, links, winks, shares, nods, nudges, and certain instances of word of mouth).

What I refer to as "residual mantra media impressions" are instances of where we can GO BACK, harvest data, and measure a certain percentage of the original views again.

Many people have varying opinions on this "voodoo" as H calls it. But, understand this: For every one 'residual mantra media impression' there were likely nine more mantra media impressions in the first. Take Johnny's 'STOP White Genocide' video that was featured on CNN and others for example. It was subsequently memory-holed and then reincarnated. It had well over 100k views on YouTewb when it enjoyed more than a million televisions tuning in during a CNN segment that ran and was a re-run on YewToob. It is back and now has another 100k views. That's a lot of 'bang for yer buck' and that's not counting all the wannabe talking heads, Chelsea-Lately's, news articles (and comments) that ran and which now read "Error 404 - Not Found", etc...

We need to understand as a group that a TON of work has been put in by a very small number of people. Secondly, while that's good, it's okay to realize it when production has dropped off. You can't FIX inefficiencies you don't know about. Yes, I understand you think that I don't post minis. That's not an identification of an inefficiency. That's a misunderstanding.

Bugs IS the war room for the good guys. So, you can expect someone to be by shortly when you f**k up.

#49 Horus | 2014-06-27 22:29

Good points. "residual mantra media impressions" I like that

And you brought back bad memories. Everyone here has lost a lot of work to censorship etc etc. WRR has lost a 10 or 12 facebook groups (some very large). I have lost a dozen or more FB accounts. We lost White Genocide Memes 1 & 2 (#2 had 10k likes). We are now on White Genocide Memes 3 ....just for spite. Oh and we lost the first White Rabbit Radio youtube channel with How Whites took over America #1 had around 150k views. I am probably missing a few things.

(Daniel, I recall you lost a huge youtube channel or two with tons of videos)

Bugsers have probably lost more accounts and work and have been censored more than most activist could fathom.

BREAKING NEWS...............................

Of course, our work is self reinforcing. Someone just put up a 48 foot monster billboard in Alabama. Of course, this is what we are working for.....some random White Rabbits pushing our memes in all directions. Stats are great at keeping records and seeing trends. Our work will never be reduced down to pure numbers.

There is something mysterious about a consistent message.

It starts with a sound .....it starts with a vibration....and once unleashed it cannot be stopped.

https://twitter.com/eurorabbit/status/482707653844803584

https://twitter.com/eurorabbit/status/482708735429586945

cheers and good weekend to all

#50 Daniel Genseric | 2014-06-29 16:50

It's comforting knowing that this exercise in N&J Stats & Factsism wasn't lost on the entire team.

So, you want to see numbers in order to justify pushing what we proved works? Fine. You got it. Just make sure it's YOURS.

The best part is it's only the tip of the iceberg, for us and them.

#51 Jason | 2014-06-30 08:04

There is nothing wrong with getting a clarification on the media impressions discussion.

#52 Daniel Genseric | 2014-06-30 09:07

The comment you just replied to was meant for Leadership. Please re-read it.

#53 Jason | 2014-06-30 10:07

What or Who is capital L Leadership?

#54 Daniel Genseric | 2014-06-30 11:58

Did your account get hacked or are you just not paying attention?

#55 Bob | 2014-06-27 11:39

"I can't believe how some people would rather talk on "Where did Genseric get 4 million per year" than they would Bob's point."

THANK YOU, GENSERIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#56 Jason | 2014-06-30 08:12

No. The media impressions discussion was brought up and it was used to claim that BUGS wasn't as effective as it had been. There is nothing wrong with seeking some clarification as to what it all means, how it is assessed, etc.

#57 Daniel Genseric | 2014-06-30 09:17

"No." hahah

I am sure the N&J Stats & Facts "exercise" (bait) did NOT escape Bob.

More importantly, Bob's point also seems to have escaped a few BUGSters.

#58 Jason | 2014-06-30 10:08

Oh well, now it's a mystery wrapped up inside a donut.

#59 Daniel Genseric | 2014-06-30 11:58

I love how your comments are always so productive. Nothing mysterious about any of it.

#60 Henry Davenport | 2014-06-30 12:44

I have to agree with Jason here. I tend to get bewildered unless things are spelled out in some detail. That's why I love reading Mantraseed. He's brilliant but never cryptic to us lesser brains...the clarity of his explanations are like oxygen.

#61 Fellow Aussie | 2014-06-28 02:31

Great discussion Laura and Bob. The sign picture Horus posted was amazing too. I think it is clear with us now that Self hatred is 1. nothing new and 2. a mental sickness.

We are promoting the memes 1. Anti-White and 2. White Genocide and spreading the Mantra so my question is. Where is the most appropriate place to slip in the meme that 'Self hatred is Sick and is the reason white Anti-Whites push White Genocide'?

#62 Jason | 2014-06-30 08:26

In the audio, the issue came up that this sickness was pre-basic. I wonder if a better term might be 'fundamental'? Pre-basic does sound like something easier, yet this is something deeper and more primal.

I wonder if our extreme self-criticism is partly genetic (I am wary of "spiritual" causes). Whites often strike me as a more tame race. I know that flies in the face of people who fancy themselves chest-beating Aryan warriors, but everyone expects Whites to be more moral. No one makes the same moral demands of non-Whites that are routinely made of Whites.

I know "tame" and "moral" are not the same thing. But this exaggerated self-criticism we have seems connected to our highly moral nature.

#63 Henry Davenport | 2014-06-30 11:06

"No one makes the same moral demands of non-Whites that are routinely made of Whites."

A pro-White commentator elsewhere makes the point that liberal anti-whites treat non-whites and animals roughly the same in that respect.

#64 Jason | 2014-06-30 11:20

That's true. Bob makes that point in the audio. Liberals put Indians and Beavers in the same category. Too primitive to be held responsible.

I have even heard non-liberal White people excuse Blacks for any anti-White attacks, because in their view, Blacks lack the ability to do anything as sophisticated as target Whites. They just think of Blacks as dangerous creatures who hurt whoever they happen to be around.

Ironically, it is these people who deny the basic humanity of non-Whites in a way none of us would ever dream of.