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And we will rub the mantra back in theirs. Oh, this is just TOO MUCH FUN sometimes!

Oh, you mean Eurocide.

I thought you were talking about killing all things white, like snakes polar bears albino alligators and doves or maybe even whites killing another race (i.e. the Jooooooos). I understand what you are saying now.

No such word as Eurocide in the dictionary and it is not a term with legal precedent. You are talking GIBBERISH yet again.

Anti-White, you do not get to tell Pro Whites, what we should call ourselves.

We are White. What you anti-Whites are doing to White people is GENOCIDE. It is White GENOCIDE.

I know it BUGS you that Whites might use a word you think you have ownership of. Well, tough luck anti-White. We are the largest victims of GENOCIDE today.

Care to deny White GENOCIDE again?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_definitions

"By 'genocide' we mean the destruction of an ethnic group . . . . Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups . . .."

- Raphael Lemkin

Massive non-White immigration AND forced integration is Demanded of ALL White countries and ONLY White countries.

Even a Black man would understand it as GENOCIDE, if this policy targeted Blacks instead of Whites.

So whats your excuse Cheshire? Do you have brain damage or something?

The strength of BUGS and the Mantra method.

Our troll attack surface consists of refusing to use or relacing the words found in the mantra which we guard like the crown jewels.

As opposed to the labyrinth of pro-white verbiage elsewhere that trolls can rollick about in.

Are YOU saying that's what I said?

Of course whites exist, silly J-Mac. Are you saying that Europeans and Europeans in America do not? Should I adopt a broader term for myself when I have no Russian blood? Why confuse the audience with vagueness?

Do you agree that European Americans exist?

Do you agree that some EA's have been targeted for murder BECAUSE they are white?

So, then. Do you deny that Eurocide has and is taking place?

You guys aren't thinking big enough....yet. But, I still love ya!

Do you consider it acceptable for Russia and Russians to be flooded with non-white immigration and assimilated with? And the rest of the Slavs?

The problem with European is much like American in practice today. Anyone can be called that with the right set of papers.

Everybody knows what the term European refers to. It is less ambiguous and tiresome than entering into the same old "who was in America first" bullshit. You know that.

Did massive non-white immigration and forced-assimilation spring up in Mother Russia overnight?

Did we not petition the Russian Federation for its help?

Did we not warn them that anti-whites have them in their sights?

Then, as a EUROPEAN AMERICAN, what further obligation do I have to the Russians?

Don't even get me started in Russia's role in the current state of affairs in Europa and their meddling here. However, I am willing to put that water under the bridge, even if they ignore our plea for help. But don't expect me to continue to identify with them despite that.

You did not answer my question so I am going to ask it again.

Do you consider it acceptable for Russia and Russians to be flooded with non-white immigration and assimilated with? And the rest of the Slavs?

That question doesn't even warrant an answer. In fact, it is insulting you even asked it, let alone asking it twice.

Did massive non-white immigration and forced-assimilation spring up in Mother Russia overnight?

Did we not petition the Russian Federation for its help?

Did we not warn them that anti-whites have them in their sights?

So, why should I concern myself with a hypothetical genocide in Russia when Europeans ARE CURRENTLY BEING VICTIMIZED? You're right, I should because I care, and I do. Besides, when is genocide ever "acceptable?"

Now it's your turn:

Exactly how much more culpability must I assume in something that hasn't even happened yet for you to feel comfy?

Will you please tell me the reason BUGSters should be more concerned with Russia's fate than with our European people's?

Do you agree that European Americans exist?

Do you agree that some EA's have been targeted for murder BECAUSE they are white?

So, then. Do you deny that Eurocide has and is taking place?

How is Eurocide not part and parcel to white genocide?

http://europa.eu/about-eu/countries/index_en.htm

The reason I am bringing up and asking you about Russia, is that you have said a very odd thing on BUGS which is in contention with our established history.

White is an inclusive racial term and every last american knows what it means even if they play dumb. The Mantra isn't about a specific subset of whites, it is about preserving the set. It is a deceleration that every white nation, no matter the location, has a right to exist now and in the future.

We are not purely reactionary with the Mantra. If a country is not subject to immigration and assimilation, the goal is to keep it that way.

Don't just say it's (all) odd, explain what is odd. I said nothing false. I'd be leery of Established History, if I were you. Didn't think you could answer any of my questions anyhow.

White is a term you have been branded with. They say that is all you are. It is used by anti-whites to divorce you from your ancestry, culture and history. Wouldn't you agree there is more to it than just our skin color? Are you Russian? If not, then "white" doesn't tell your entire story, only part of it. Are you trying to limit, or put constraints on, the discussion?

As Bob says, "Don't just define it, go to open systems." Why are we working towards limiting our people's ability to accurately articulate what is happening to them? How come Eurocide is identifiable and correctly pronounced by iOS and Siri, but not by certain BUGSters? Is Siri and her programmers anti-white?

Please explain how what I outline is reactionary.

And this is the third time I have asked:

Do you agree that European Americans exist?

Do you agree that some EA's have been targeted for murder BECAUSE they are white?

So, then. Do you deny that Eurocide has and is taking place?

How is Eurocide not part and parcel to white genocide?

Why did you say 'you aren't thinking big enough yet' right after making it clear you don't consider Russians to be White and therefore they shouldn't be included in our goals here? That right there seems to show you are the one 'not thinking big enough.

In addition, it would seem that your stubbornly pushing Eurocide shows a desire to exclude Russians from the category of White. This does us NO good. I would say it is YOU who seems rather rather silly to me.

Of course what do *I* know??? I'm only interested in saving my race, the White race, not demanding that MY approach be embraced by a bunch of people who are already using a successful approach.

Why dont you come back and show us how its done once YOU can demonstrate a track record of success with YOUR approach? I think most of the people here are fairly open minded but we DO want to see something that WORKS. I think it's fair to say that's why we are using the current. PROVEN verbiage.

I thought Cheshire Cat was somebody else, but his insistence on Eurocide after being challenged on it`s damage to mantra consistency is very suspicious and

http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2013/01/14/todays-english-is-tomorrows-latin/#comments

"Don't you see how this "white" label serves to divorce us from our ancestors, culture and heritage?"

Is a ridiculous statement that I wager no mantra thinker would entertain even for a second, it`s the kind of thing an anti-white says

"Oh, you mean Eurocide.

I thought you were talking about killing all things white, like snakes polar bears albino alligators and doves or maybe even whites killing another race (i.e. the Jooooooos). I understand what you are saying now."

More absurdity about whiteness and Invoking TheSixMillion totally out of context?

Hurt feelings take a back seat in keeping our mantra message intact.

"Hell, if Horus drops a "Eurocide" in one of his podcasts, would he be a troll too?"

I`ve ,listened to all his broadcasts and I can`t remember a single time Horus has used eurocide instead of genocide, which tells me something important.

My feelings aren't hurt and who I am matters not. It's all about the content. "Absurdity" seems to be a label you throw around for questions you have no answers to. Might want to work on that.

I simply gave you anti-white or fence-rider comments that I have seen. It's spelled Audience.

Your looking to and taking cues from Horus on everything tells me something too.

http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/?s=eurocide

"Does not compute" or "error: term not found" is not an excuse.

Why are you so adamant about limiting the number of words we have to describe the genocidal programs being waged against our people?

Is what I am doing open systems thinking? What about what you're engaged in?

OST is not some show where tickets are Sold Out. You can actually participate too.

I`ve made all of my points, I`m not wasting more time on this.

A real BUGSer would do anything to prevent time being wasted on discussing non-mantra talking points.

"A real BUGSer would do anything to prevent time being wasted on discussing non-mantra talking points."

Yet, you run away while I implore you to consider another layer OF the Mantra. How ironic.

Cheshire,

You answer all questions with questions. No one with experience, would take anything you say seriously.

As for your Eurocide crap, you are trying to push the anti-White preferred definition of GENOCIDE requiring it to be mass murder, because that would cover up what you anti-Whites have been doing to White people globally.

No anti-White. No where in the UN GENOCIDE Law is murder specified. Game Over.

It's White GENOCIDE.

You are missing my point. And why do you keep calling me anti-white? You think you have a handle on who I am and what I believe? You claim to understand my intentions. Yet, clearly you do not. Does it make you uncomfortable to have your methodology challenged? Does it make you angry to have your terminology examined? Then start by being PISSED at Dave. When you're done being angry with Dave, you can finish by being pissed at BOB.

So, you are saying that nobody with experience would listen to someone with experience. Makes perfect sense to me Old Boy.

When is the last time you tried something without having to hear it from someone with "elevated status"? When?

Did I get you talking about Eurocide? Let's count how many times I got each of you to repeat it, shall we. I hope you don't need my help for that, but I'm beginning to have my doubts.

Again, for YOUR reference, not mine: http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2012/12/21/our-changing-relationship-as-you-learn-by-doing/

Ditto what BoardAd and Dungeoneer wrote !

Cheshire Cat posted "It's easy to see that Europeans are white and cide means killing. Therefore, Eurocide is obviously the killing of Europeans"

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"Genocide involves the attempt to achieve the disappearance of a group by whatever means. It does not have to be violent, it could be a combination of policies that would lead to a certain group dying out."

Malcolm Fraser (Prime Minister of Australia 1975-1983)

GENOCIDE is broader then simply killing people.

It includes

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

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We could be sterilised, have our children given to 3rd Worlders, be called the r-word for objecting and be forced to live apart from other White people and be randomly beaten for being White yet none of that would be 'Eurocide' as we aren't actually being murdered.

It would however be GENOCIDE under International Law.

I understand you are having some 'success' with 'Eurocide', you can have even more 'success' if you drop 'Eurocide' just like you dropped GENOCIDE and concentrate on 'demographic change' 'displacement' or 'equal rights for Whites'.

You might even get a book deal out of it and make some money....

If my EXPLORING a term makes you uneasy, perhaps you should head for calmer waters. Sheesh.

Besides, I only know of one BUGSter trying to make money off of Bob's work. And it ain't me. Oh, remember that word, "Ain't"? I do. I can even remember when it was a big deal as to whether or not it would be included in Websters. So what. Right? duhhhhhhhh.....

"European American" is anti-White terminology.

There is only American and they are White. Whites are the founders of the United States. Non-Whites like yourself, tack their country of origin onto American, because they know they are not real Americans.

The preamble to the Constitution clearly states America is for Whites only.

Sorry anti-White. We do not use your terminology.

"European American" is anti-White terminology."

That's just your OPINION. Try and explain your point of view to an anti-white who asks you, "What's American anyway?" Try doing away with Native American, African American, etc etc...

Good luck. Time to start dealing with reality. Bet you can't and won't touch these questions:

Do you agree that European Americans exist?

Do you deny Europeans settled America?

Do you agree that some EA's have been targeted for murder BECAUSE they are white?

So, then. Do you deny that Eurocide has and is taking place?

How is Eurocide not part and parcel to white genocide?

I'm with OB on this one. I am no more a European-American than an African in China is Chinese. There is a reason why we left Europe even when Europe was 100% White and it has nothing to do with our friends in Europe.

And "Euroside" is plain silly.

Okay.

So, "White" completely describes you, your ancestry and your history?

Sounds pretty bland to me.

Another person who CAN'T answer:

Do you agree that European Americans exist?

Do you deny Europeans settled America?

Do you agree that some EA's have been targeted for murder BECAUSE they are white?

So, then. Do you deny that Eurocide has and is taking place?

How is Eurocide not part and parcel to white genocide?

Anti-White says:

"So, "White" completely describes you, your ancestry and your history?"

Anti-White,

YOU and your anti-White buddies have defined whom is "White", by whom you are trying to GENOCIDE, by demanding massive immigration and FORCED integration, for ALL of their countries and ONLY their countries.

Russia, ALL of Europe, Ireland, Iceland, Canada, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.. etc...

You target ONLY those places where these "White" people, whom you also say DON'T EXIST, happen to be standing. lol

There is nothing dumber, than a dumb man who thinks he is smart!

There is nothing funnier than an old man who fancies himself useful. Hahaha! And I'm anti-white because I endanger your delicate sensibilities? BwahahahHA!

If you weren't completely and utterly worthless, we wouldn't be staring down the barrel of white genocide, would we? Yeah. That's what I thought, "genius". I take that back. Maybe you can tell us how you fucked up America for the last 6 or 7 decades? Probably not.

Now get out of the way while we clean up the shitty mess your generation left us. Oh, and you're a European American whether you like it or not. "David Duke The Anti-White" says so too. LOL!

"Anti-White,

You target ONLY those places where these "White" people, whom you also say DON'T EXIST, happen to be standing. lol"

In the midst of all the crazed horse-poop, I find a lovely pony. I'm not surprised.

Genseric, I don't know what's happening to you, but it's sad and disturbing to witness. I hope you will come to the end of it and rejoin us. You and I have had our problems, and I admit to having a slight hair up my butt about you now that sometimes gives an edge to things I say to you, but my deeper fondness for you that was formed about the time of the first seminar has always remained strong, as well as my respect for you as a an exceptional bugster. For the sake of our joint enterprise here, let whatever's gotten inside you flow out and come to an end.

We're just humans here involved in a human undertaking, and each of us has to realize that sometimes it's ourself who is right and the others wrong, and sometimes it's the other way around, and who can tell which is the case when they're in the full fire of their feelings. Ease up.

God knows what I'll find when I get up to today's blog.

No, I don't personally care for OB's and dungeoneer's way of dealing with you, but just as I value your strengths, I value theirs, and among theirs is the fact that they ALWAYS hold the line, and hold it strong. A trait that this group will ALWAYS be much in need of, by the very nature of our task.

"Do you agree that European Americans exist?"

The question has already been answered.

Again for our mentally challenged, anti-White:

The only Americans are White people. It says that quite clearly, in the Preamble to the Constitution.

"to Ourselves and our Posterity"

Written and ratified by what anti-Whites like to call "racist old white guys". They call them "racist old white guys", because they understand what they meant by that line.

There is no hyphenation when it comes to Whites, in the countries their ancestors built.

Next you will be saying there is such a thing as a European "hyphen" British, or a European "hyphen" Southerner.

This is idiotic.

Only non-Whites flooding into White countries, call themselves such things.

You consistently use anti-White terminology.

It's only idiotic because you thought it up. LuLz!

I have the sneaking suspicion that you haven't managed a unique and intelligent thought all on your own in your ENTIRE LIFE. And that's a LONG time.

Only idiot savants, non-whites and anti-whites are that incapable of mustering original thought. Which are you?

Next thing, YOU will be saying that David Duke is anti-white because he uses European American. My god, you ARE brilliant. Does Using Eurocide to describe anti-white murder and terrorism really bother you? Does that make YOU anti-white? Have you even bothered to try it? Something to think about.

Why do you want us to adopt David's terminology?

Are you going to join the "European Americans are a social construct" crowd? Are you intimating that David is not pro-white?

It's a white term. Everything will be a-okay.

No, I think European-American is Duke's term. It's pro-white, but it is the respectable flavor. No American refers to himself as such outside of Duke's people and that is essentially useless when trying to reach the common man.

By the time anyone uses European-American they are already on board. What you are forgetting is that a group will adopt a term of derision as its name, but they will just look at you confused if you try to rename them.

Tell that to Gretchen Carlson who made the mistake of using the term on Fox and Friend in November. She did that....ONCE. You're forgetting that there is nothing respectable about pointing to white anything as a positive.

I'm afraid you have it backwards. Lots of people don't like to think of themselves as white. I know this because they HATE having one box to check on job applications, college forms, and medical forms while everyone else has all kinds of options. Can't count how many times I've heard them bitch about it. You know how else I know it is a fact?

People understand that anti-racist is a code word for anti-white. And it makes them less than comfy. They want options, not to be herded and railroaded into one box huge boxcar.

Weirwood, I know you can be concise, because your marvelous video doesn't have a superfluous word in it! Lol! So when you write a comment as important as this one...well, at least put the main points in bold or something.

Unless I missed something, I agree with all you've said. In earlier months I spent some effort trying to get Bugs to be warmer and fuzzier, but I've finally learned that we got here who we got here, starting with lovable ole' Bob! (who I think we all do love in some way). Warmer and fuzzier will have to wait until warmer and fuzzier arrive, who can tolerate and also appreciate the value of those here who aren't warm and fuzzy. I hope to God that you are among that number! You can't change people very much...I guess I need another year of beating my head against the SF wall to finally get that, but I am slowly learning it.

When people do things that seem counter-productive, then depending on the degree to which others here have or haven't formed a feeling for who those people are, there are going to be suspicions. That's the nature of our work and it's inescapable. Peter, Jason, Genseric...the idea that they could be anything but deeply sincere pro-whites is ludicrous to me, because I believe I have a very clear picture of who they are. Jason and Genseric have been pretty much open books from the git-go, and Peter I've worked with.

Dick Whitman I didn't know at all, and so when I saw he was swarming (I was swarming then, and will again) mostly pages that were outdated it seemed, I wondered. I told myself what I've learned to be true, that weirdnesses like that almost always have their explanation in the limitless expanse of personal quirkdom, but still I wondered. Now I've seen a lot more of Dick and I no longer wonder.

Work with who we are here, and let's move forward!! Like Genseric when he gets through whatever he's going through (or probably at the very same time!), you're a mighty weapon, Weirwood, and like Beefcake you arrive among us fully formed, a marvel! Lol!

"We are here to end White Genocide period."

Are you implying I am NOT? You think I am getting PAID to point out the obvious to you? hahahaha

That's an impressive amount of logic expressed concisely and effectively. Are you related to Bob?

"If French men started calling themselves "European French", then France no longer exists, and is no longer of the French.

On that ground, I might stop calling myself an American. It might no longer have any meaning and then "European American" has even less."

That would never happen because it is ludicrous. This is such a weak argument I can't believe I am responding to it. Even children understand where all the colonists came from, EUROPE. So now you only use pre-approved labels given to you by Mommy Professor? Huh? Well, you're definitely no BUGSter then. Have you ever heard of David Duke? He USES European American. I guess he's anti-white too? LoL!

Wake up and smell the coffee.. Yours is hardly an argument Bob would make. Because it just plain sucks. Get a clue, freak.

What an ignorant comment. You mean like anti-white or anti-racist? Did you just call Bob nonsensical?