THE ROBERT W. WHITAKER ARCHIVE

PRODUCTIVE PUNISHMENT | 2012-03-18

Let the summer warriors get their kicks by talking about shooting the anti-whites, or "tribunals," and such crap.

I have lived with the real punishment, the one that LASTS, and compared to it tribunals and shootings really are minor.

It seems utterly forgotten, but I have repeatedly proposed and you have agreed with, a FINANCIAL punishment. This is CRITICAL. Tribunals and such DO NOT LAST.

Paying informers lasts forever.

This, to me, is logical and, when the time comes, critical.

There will be no statute of limitations. Every Morning, every person and every HEIR of a person who helped the anti-white campaign, however indirectly, will have to wait for the moment when an informer finds proof of his or his ancestor's joining in this campaign. Informers will still be on this for a hundred years.

Remind you of the Holocaust?

We will give a percentage of the find to informers, and informers will make their living by never letting anyone forget this campaign for white genocide.

A business which EMPLOYS a person who took part in the anti-white campaign and, to a lesser degree, anyone who INHERITED from a person who took part in the white genocide campaign, will be subject to a penalty.

No blood. No violence. Just a reminder, for a century or two, of what rich white people did to us.

You play into their hands when you start raving about tribunals and firing squads and torchlight parades. They LOVE quotes like that. They are in total contrast to the common sense of the Mantra.

But more important, this will perpetuate itself and the memory of white genocide.

It is a bit like the Chinese water torture. Who could guess that drops of water could be more agonizing than the whip.

And the whip eventually kills and the torture ENDS.

Take it from one who has faced this kind of punishment for over half a century. It makes a firing squad look like a wimp solution.

COMMENTS (25)

#1 Coniglio Bianco | 2012-03-18 06:52

This is what we are all waiting for. The moment when the tables are finally turned on those who are responsible. After what they have done to us no punishment is too great.

It would be inconsistent for us to use the definition of genocide as described by Article II of the Convention to support our claims but not Article VI which provides for persons charged with genocide to be tried by tribunal.

I don't like the idea that the perpetrators of the greatest crime in history could get away with it simply by paying what amounts to a fine. That would be doing what the rich always do when they get into trouble and that is buying their way out of it.

I will take the tribunals thank you very much. Let's just make sure not to forget anyone.

#2 Lord Nelson | 2012-03-18 07:14

Bob

This is pure GENIUS!

Love it.

LN

#3 BGLass | 2012-03-18 08:17

reparitions bandwagons quickly perpetuate themselves without much effort since they are a gift that keeps on giving, a lucrative industry, and the old foundations already provide the apparatus, ready to be moved into; it's always just a matter of what professional informers feel they should inform ABOUT--- in a new culture of critique, the gramsci of the right, that plumbs the depths of existing institutions, exhaustlessly examining exactly how each and every person benefitted---

#4 Dave | 2012-03-18 08:26

Our persecutors' capacity for self-deception is both persistent and reliable.

Demanding that an enemy repent is sterile. They are not going to repent. You can rely upon their self-deception. Self-deception triumphs and you can rely upon the triumph of self-deception. A victor that demands the enemy repent cedes power.

Instead, the victor must not glory in victory but instead use the respite of victory to continue to set traps for the enemy, traps that are designed to leverage the enemy's persistent and reliable capacity for self-deception.

This is Mantra thinking. It is Mantra thinking that is important. It is a matter of performing the work to accurately think through the implications of absolutely everything. We must never excuse ourselves from that work, under any circumstance.

#5 Dick_Whitman | 2012-03-18 08:59

Bob wrote about channeling anger during his last post. The people who need blood or suffering really can't control or channel their anger (or it may be something even more disturbing about their nature?). Therefore these people shouldn't be relied upon for these types of matters. I certainly don't want to be the judge of who dies. I'm generally leery of anyone who can encourage killing with ease. You see this with people like John McCain, or Lt. Col Ralph Peters, or John Bolton( Bush's UN representative), or sometimes Pat Roberson. They act as tough guys and talk about who should be killed without trial.

The forces of pro-Whiteness must never allow these types of elements to gain prominence within its body. The body of pro-Whiteness must be relied upon to always find the most thoughtful, most logical, most calm-headed solution to a problem. Since we deal in a very emotional subject (race, race relations, living space) we should by nature be the most geared towards non-violence. Pro-Whites should be the ones calming down others. Pro-Whites can show the world that people can talk out anything as long as you have empathy and respect for other points of view and ways of life. WE can put an end to what the White Rabbit calls the "ethnic conflict model." This is the closed system that says that Whites must be blended out of existence and if they don't accept being genocided by forced diversity they are "naziswhowanttokillsixmillionjews."

BUGSters (and other pro-Whites) are smashing the closed system model that relies on dogma, doctrine, or orthodoxy. We're saying NO, you're wrong, Whites can have their own systems and symbols (over living space) just as anyone else can. Thinking otherwise is closed minded and almost not worth our time except for the fact that they're dangerous and genocidal for reasons we don't fully understand yet (you must Follow the White Rabbit to Learn this). Since the universe requires justice, there still must be punishment. Financial punishment is preferable for a number of reasons.

1) America will be able to pay off the national debt and foreign creditors and pay for pensions and infrastructure improvement.Students loans will also be forgotten.

2) Money can be used to encourage the creation of larger White families (but done emphasizing the smartest, best looking, and most morally fit).

3) Money can be channeled into innovative industries to help develop renewable energy and new medical technologies. It can also be used to work on big clean up projects (like cleaning up the Oceans).

But there's also a more practical reason that is related to the actual defeating of the anti-Whites and the tearing down of the anti-White system.

Anyone who has studied international relations has probably read about the "theory of democratic peace." This is the theory that claims that democracies don't fight each other.

The point I'm getting at here relates to the transition period from non-democracy to democracy. Researchers discovered that the transition was faster and easier when the old (non-democratic) leaders were given a future in the new regime. IOW, the leaders who knew they were facing death were willing to fight it out to the end.

By relying on financial penalization, this will give many of the anti-White leaders an out and not push them to fight it out to the end. In fact, the earlier the anti-Whites come clean, the better it will be for them. Anti-Whites will be given opportunities to make deals if they agree to work for pro-Whites in bringing other anti-Whites to justice.

Of course, there are some anti-Whites who may be "in too deep" and all the money in the world won't be able to help them (the people who kissed the ring of the "Red Hippo")? Law and criminal justice is not my area of expertise so I won't comment further on this.

To any anti-Whites reading this, I suggest you think (real hard) about how you can start impressing us. Because at some point it will be too late to come clean. There is a way out for anti-Whites at the link below.

I suggest you take it.

http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/2011/12/25/merry-christmas/#comment-53873

#6 ioannes | 2012-03-18 09:35

As stated before, by just paying the money will allow criminals to avoid the repercussions and the sting of the law. The humiliation is generational. The anti-white system had its Great Grandfather, and has been perpetrated through time by the Grandfathers and Fathers and now the Children.

In my mind the Grandfathers, Fathers and Children who are still alive and who have led and perpetrated this white genocidal system must face Tribunal as stated by the law. Some of them will try to make the claim that "we screamed racist at only white people, like Daddy Professor told us to do and therefore we don't deserve to face a Tribunal". Those children and their children will have to pay into the void of forever.

So in the future their children will one day ask "why do we have to pay this bidding". Their daddy will then say, "Because your ancestors tried to genocide the white children off the face of the earth. Our leaders were found guilty at an International Tribunal and hung. We are guilty and so you will pay."

This has a whole lot more teeth then just paying money to avoid the humiliation of a Tribunal.

#7 ioannes | 2012-03-18 10:06

"Let the summer warriors get their kicks by talking about shooting the anti-whites, or "tribunals," and such crap."

Bob, as a follow up you are pulling the same tricks as the anti-whites have done for years.If you dont like what we are saying then bring about your points. Stop the silly name calling.

I understand what you are trying to say. Money should be part of the punishment. But the law is the law. The Tribunal is what shows the teeth. For years the anti-whites have denied and avoided laws. This is one law I dont want any anti-white to deny or avoid.

#8 Gavin | 2012-03-18 10:51

These multibillion dollar corporations have lobbied for cheap third world labour allied with the anti-Whites by supporting their program of genocide against our race out of financial interest. They have denied generations of our people the wages we were entitled to, depriving us of our ability to raise families. Paying restitution...is something everyone will gleefully support.

Also the practical aspect of it is important. A whole industry of activists dedicated to tracking down anti-Whites and fining them for what they have done will be self-perpetuating. If someone is making their living off of the proceeds of financial penalties for genocide, they will make damn sure no one forgets what was done.

#9 Coniglio Bianco | 2012-03-18 10:56

Corporations that are found to be guilty can be penalized financially but individuals who are found to be guilty must be punished according to the law. The law is quite clear on what the penalties for genocide are.

If there is no real punishment then those who are responsible will do it again. If we are fortunate enough to survive the current program of genocide we must never again allow ourselves to be in such a position.

The only way to ensure that is for the guilty to pay the maximum price for their crimes. That will act as both a punitive and preventative measure. At the end of the day our enemies must be utterly defeated and their system completely crushed. To do otherwise is to invite disaster.

#10 Dave | 2012-03-18 11:36

Always remember, the Mantra is an accusation.

Our job is to get the enemy to focus on the accusation.

Once the enemy focuses on it to the extent that it becomes a matter of their own personal concern, concern regarding the sanctioned consequences to them personally, then we have won. They are trapped.

But the "sanctioning" doesn't need to be official. It just needs to be politically credible. As long as the perception exists that our accusation is not politically credible, then we have been outflanked.

That is why Dick Whitman is right. We need to position ourselves as being "calmer downers", as being a calming force in society. This is what is what it means to set traps.

#11 Roderick | 2012-03-18 12:00

Well such policies would certianly help reverse the damage and remind people of the attempted genocide

but I'm worried that such policies would eventually create a backlash against pro-white attitudes.

Then again maybe we should just worry about fighting this genocide first.

#12 c-bear | 2012-03-18 12:16

Right on Bob! This is, after all, for our children, and our children's children.

#13 Harumphty Dumpty | 2012-03-18 14:54

Bob's post seems in part about our anger and hurt and what we do with those feelings, but it's primarily about what tactics are effective or counter-effective:

"You play into their hands when you start raving about tribunals and firing squads..."

Is this true or false?

What kinds of reactions have you bugsers who've been talking about tribunals gotten? Even though that won't answer the question, since the long range effects are the important ones. What will be the effect when finally we are being mentioned in the news and the hook is always that we want to execute people? It could possibly be positive, since it provides a hook that might get us publicity faster.

But I think I suddenly see clearly why I've felt uneasy when I've seen bugsers mentioning tribunals. IT'S SUCH A STRONG STATEMENT THAT IT DIVERTS FROM THE MESSAGE!

No, wait: IT'S SUCH A STRONG STATEMENT THAT IT WILL CARRY THE MESSAGE!

Okay, I'm out of my depth here, so I will follow Bob's best judgment as he has stated it unless someone can show clearly (and show Bob!) that he has goofed! I will always do that concerning tactics even if I disagree, because I have every reason to believe that Bob is more likely to be correct than I am.

And thinking a bit more about my question above, I'm rather certain that my first capped statement is the correct one. Our points will be totally left hanging lifeless when the media diverts all the energy we've generated into portraying us as the ultimate crazies who've found a twisted excuse to start killing people. In the public mind we will be nothing more than what the media will make us: that crazy white supremacist group that has actually stated publicly that it intends to kill people!.

#14 Harumphty Dumpty | 2012-03-18 15:15

I'll call this comment, "The difficulty of creating tactics that don't arise naturally from one's own culturally based feelings"

Another genius who much influenced my life before Bob once remarked to me how much more effective the Palestinian suicide bombers would be if, like the Buddhist monks who resisted the US presence in Vietnam, they would simply burn themselves (and only themselves) to death in a public protest instead of setting off bombs whose primary purpose was to take their enemies with them, thus obliterating the strong message of the suicide with the same old same old. (If you ever saw the widely distributed photo of a Vietnamese monk sitting in the middle of a Saigon street engulfed in flames, you may appreciate how effective that photo was in demoralizing support at home for the U.S. war effort. Or so I'm told at least; I wasn't paying close enough attention to vouch for it).

#15 Cleric Preston | 2012-03-18 15:45

Coniglio Bianco, where did you post the mantra today ?

#16 The Old Man of the Mountain | 2012-03-18 15:50

In order to win, all we have to do is not surrender and survive. (Wish Lee had realized that!)

Now is the time to take basic precautions for survival: Get out of the big cities and away from the coast; and prepare for basic survival.

#17 Soldier_Ant | 2012-03-20 01:58

Old Man do you believe that Lee did not realize he wasn't in a gentlemanly fight or even a civil war against fellow countrymen, but the first of the 3 modern religious wars fought for the very soul of the White race? I don't believe he did.

#18 dungeoneer | 2012-03-18 17:11

Every anti-white who`s gone to sleep knowing their scam is

being exposed is suffering a private torment.

Nice.

#19 Dick_Whitman | 2012-03-18 17:41

I'm glad I don't have to decide who dies. I'll let Jesus decide.

#20 Coniglio Bianco | 2012-03-18 20:48

People need to stop calling it 'attempted' genocide. If you read the Convention then you will realize this from the definitions. If it's 'attempted' you are saying that no harm has yet come to anyone. By saying that it's 'attempted' you are allowing the anti-Whites to change the definition. Don't bring a knife to a gunfight. It's genocide!

#21 Gavin | 2012-03-19 02:34

It is difficult for a suppressed pro-White dissident to imagine that one day the tables will be turned. I know this is your profession Bob and you have the advantage of observing these things for many years, however from my perspective I have been raised in a society where the anti-Whites control everything and do whatever they want with no regard for truth, justice or decency.

The idea of a whole industry dedicated to traking down anti-Whites and making them pay for their crimes sounds great to me, it's the HOW we can make it happen that I do not yet understand.

#22 timeforfreedom | 2012-03-19 02:38

We want it all Bob...Tribunals and neverending reparations until every scrap of our anti-White enenmy is gone..like dust in the wind. However, you point is well taken and from now on I'm going to start emphasizing the financial reparation angle of the punishment for the Crime of White Genocide. I espeically love the idea of being able to make money by becoming an anti-White-Hunter. Kind of like a bounty hunter. I might get a new career out of this and make some decent coin for once. I like the idea of there being whole businesses and individuals devoted to searching for anti-Whites, their underlings, and their heirs at every level.

Another Great Article Bob...Very thought provoking and inspiring.

#23 clovis | 2012-03-19 06:21

Just listen to Bob. Would you rather win, or run your mouth? Everyone who actively helps to spread our ideas, are foot soldiers in a PR battle. If privates in an army didn't do what they are told because of whatever reason the army would fall apart. Get over wanting to rub something in people's faces, and just do what you're told. One hundred thousand Caesars would have never built Rome. Don't let petty things hinder us. Plus talk of tribunals and such, just confuses people. If you talk about wanting to stop genocide, and in the next sentence talk about ringing people's necks, people won't know what to make of you. And it distracts from what it's really about anyway. It would be the equivalent to privates lobbing bullets into the faces of enemy soldiers. It might sting them, and it might feel good to have done it. But when these bullets are picked up and SHOT at you, you're dead! Any leader would be against any sort of stupid tactic. So when bob is against something, just listen to him. If you think that you have a good idea, then express yourself here. If your idea isn't somehow "message oriented" and you just want to try to tell people about how much trouble they're in, then all you are doing is throwing bullets at enemies. Bullets that might sting, but they WILL be used against us. I really don't care about telling people that somebody's gonna get it. And truthfully I don't even care if they do. All that I care about is my people surviving. And the White people who are against a future where we exist are actually "in for a rough time" if they get what they want. They are just too foolish to see this. That should be the only talk of punishment. And IF we are in a position to punish the active enemies of our people, then that is the job of somebody else in the future. What is the point of telling someone, that someday the people hurting us our going to be punished, when you haven't even secured a future where this is possible yet? And like bob said, the enemy loves quotes from some angry White person. They love them because you are giving them the weapons that they will use against you. Do not EVER do their job for them.

#24 Tom Bowie | 2012-03-21 15:23

Hell is not Hell because it is a bad place; it's Hell because it never ends.

Were I given the power of life and death; many Anti-Whites would live a long, long time and their attempts to end it would fail.

No kindness will they get from me.

Sometime back a rather bright Anti-White asked what I would do with all the Non-Whites, kill them. I responded that I didn't recall inviting them in, it seemed to me that it would be up to Anti-Whites to take care of that problem.

Understanding what I was saying; I recieved another another death notice in the vile worded fit he went into.

When the winds of change blow the Anti-Whites will raise the Jolly Roger against their weapons of geNOcide and history can record the way they did that as well.

There seems to be a lot of work for Anti-Whites ahead.

#25 Lord Nelson | 2012-03-21 17:03

"Sometime back a rather bright Anti-White asked what I would do with all the Non-Whites, kill them. I responded that I didn't recall inviting them in, it seemed to me that it would be up to Anti-Whites to take care of that problem."

Good one.

Some time ago an Anti-White asked me the same question. I gave this almost identical answer:

"You Anti-Whites created this problem. You Anti-Whites must be made to sot it out!"