THE ROBERT W. WHITAKER ARCHIVE

BASICS: THE INTELLECTUAL DISEASE | nationalsalvation.net

This is absolutely fascinating. For one thing, no I've never come across it before. Things that I have been mulling over are these. St. Paul, we are told, was planning on going to Asia, but in a dream, a man from Macedonia appeared to him saying come over here and help us, so he went west. Acts something. I think there are reasons why history has gone the direction it has and it was Europe that became Christendom. And the Jews have always been trying to find a way there but stay apart.

Comment by Shari

ME:

Yes, I remember a short statement that the disciples were not to go to the East, but I read it when I did not know what "The East" meant to every literate person in that age and to no theologian today. You reminded me of it.

Paul was specifically forbidden to go where his own thinking came from!

And this, Alan B. should explain why I study THE GENERAL OUTLINES of religious thinking so closely. The theologians are lost in the forest, and the other people study tree bark and lichen. They discover a piece of lichen and build a church on it.

But if you step back and look at the general outline, you will see that St. Paul was considered a blessing by the Apostles, especially by Peter, when he first appeared, and for a reason that is straight out of AD 2007. Peter had heard the words of Christ, but here was a SCHOLAR, a Roman Citizen, who would attest to the truth.

And with Paul the intellectual came the disease that comes with scholars. Jesus had even cut the Ten Commandments down to two, but Paul imposed what whole intellectual Wordism of his day in the name of Christ. From absolutely NOWHERE he brought in the ideal of sterility from the dying and degenerate Zoroastrian faith. He took the infant Christ and turned him into a bitter old man.

Which, as I say, is news straight out of 2007 AD. Academia is carrying the poisons of Wordism to each new generation. If Christ had wanted book-fed, sophisticated Pauls to teach Intellectual Truth, he would not have said, "For thou art PETER, and upon THIS rock I will build my church." Jesus' Palestine was crowded with Scribes and Pharisees and every other version of Paul you could imagine.

Jesus hand-picked his disciples, carefully chosen men not one of whom was a scholar. He told them "I can make you fishers of men." He said over and over and over and over and over to them the same words Doctor Bob, co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, said on his deathbed to Bill W: "Keep it SIMPLE."

Jesus said again and again and again, "Keep it SIMPLE." Be good. Love God. Be as good to your neighbor as you would be to yourself, which meant you should treat yourself well. As Pain points out, nobody can apply this today, least of all the churches.

A century after the death of Christ, men were out in the desert starving and thirsting and whipping themselves in his name. It never occurred to them that, if that was right and Jesus' teachings were right, then they should be out torturing others.

According to a combination of St. Paul and the Golden Rule, the greatest "Christians" in history were Ghenghis Khan and Mao-Tse Tung, with Pol Pot getting big honors for how much he did with less.

But who is going to COMBINE the self-torture that began with St. Paul's intellectual disease caught from degenerate Zoroastrianism with the Golden Rule? Where would you PUBLISH it?

OF COURSE you haven't heard it before, Shari. Do you think I find this stuff in books?

Now some crotcheting from a crotchety old man to the rest of you: Don't sit around grousing about whether or not you are a Christian. I don't CARE. I am not a priest of any religion, least of all Ayn Rand's militantly atheistic Objectivism.

That kind of stuff is a big deal with priests and followers of Ayn Rand, but I am not trying to give you a Wordism, I am trying to get your nose to the intellectual grindstone.

Don't bitch at me about bringing up old ideas you aren't interested in because you are enlightened. I don't mind those comments, but they mean your mind is in a RUT.

My kind of thinking will die with me unless you folks get to BASICS.

KEEP IT SIMPLE.

WHO ELSE CAN YOU NOT GO AFTER? | 2004-05-15

We all know that Simon Wiesenthal and the United States Government are still spending huge sums of money to go after every twenty-year-old German who was assigned to guard a Nazi concentration camp, even if they are eighty years old now.

What that German kid should have done was walk right up to the SS officers, the guys with the skulls on their hats and the guns at their hips, and tell them he was not going to follow their orders.

Tens of millions of people were killed in Stalin's Gulag in Siberia. Not one commandant or guard in any of THOSE camps has ever had his pension threatened, much less his life. Wiesenthal would never demand such a thing.

Jews were known to go to their deaths like sheep. They never defied the SS the way those German kids were supposed to. But like Catholic bishops versus Army grunts, that's a whole different matter.

THE INTERNET IS BEING THERE | 2006-04-05

"Stop HIDING behind the compter screen! Get out into the REAL WORLD!"

Since I am about the last person who can be accused of hiding anywhere, I am the perfect on to flush this nonsense down where it belongs.

I hate the telephone, relative to the internet, for a one reason: The person I am talking to is on a schedule. He calls me when I am thinking about something else, and he is on the way to something else, too.

A good deal of the time is spent trying to get get in what he needs to say to me when he can contact me personally.

On the internet, you are here when you feel like being here. I do not have to remember your telephone number or get ready to talk to you and intrduce you to the topic I am interested in at the moment, when your mind is somewhere else -- otherwise you would be calling ME.

Phone call Stage One: Getting the number right and introducing the topic. Stage Two: Getting your input and my reaction to your input, all in the time allotted and at a time neither of us chose.

Personal visits are far, far worse t han the telephone. You have to GET there, which means that you have just been through a set of directions and little incidents.

Then comes all the "getting each comfortable."

On the internet, you are here when you want to be here and I am here when I want to be here.

Onthe internet, the topic is already introduced when you sit and when I sit down.

I am mystified as to why this constitutes HIDING:

"I actually met so-and-so."

My concern is not whether you physically sat down and saw the actual face of someone, but what did you SAY?

You can hide anything that was actually said in a talk about where he lives and how he looks.

Sight and smell are the province of a dog.

A dog can get nothing out of the Internet.

On the internet, if you tell someone you were talking to somebody on it, all you can discuss is WHAT YOU SAID.

I think the person who you of "hiding behind the computer screen" is the one who wants to hide. He wants to talk about where he was and how he was THERE, not about hwat was said, which is province of the human mind.

If anyone ever really reads and thinks about what I say, he will realize this is a repetition. The person who talks endlessly about "liars" is a liar. The person who talks endlessly about Hate is a hater. The person who talks endlessly about "hiding" is hiding.

That is the kind of thinking an interrogator does. It is the kind of thinking an interrogator gets so good at that he is paid for it.

Being there physically is a substitute for being there mentally.

MARK IS NOT PETER | 2006-04-21

Mark points out:

"Neither Peter nor Shari nor Elizabeth is trying to make points on me. You should give me credit for knowing that."

I would give you credit if you would remember my name is Mark, NOT Peter — altho I have an abundance of respect for Peter and his intellect.

I'm MARK. I'm from Missouri. I'm agnostic.

I'm Mark. I'm from Missouri. I'm agnostic.

I'm Mark. I"m from Missouri. I'm agnostic.

Okay, any questions?

Comment by Mark

MY REPLY:

OK, Senile Bob has tried to change each reference to yo so that I use your name.

In one case I used your name instead of Shari's, and I changed that, too.

If I missed any, my address is [email protected]

Repetition works.

So I am going to repeat the orginial article and see if we can get off of the Catholic Church this time.