THE ROBERT W. WHITAKER ARCHIVE

There is so much heat on the Jew/Hiter issue partially because some of us react so violently to obsessive Jew-talk and Hitler crud. Maybe that makes it worse? But I will to be honest - that stuff gives me a sinking feeling of failure in my stomach every time it comes up. So, part of the problem is the Jew/Hitler obsessives on the one hand, and on the other hand, part of could be the way people react. So what do we do?

Just ignore the NS/Jew crowd? A quick dismissive remark?

Bob is not a cult leader - lol. He is VERY good at crafting messages and we have reason to accept his expertise. It frankly bothers me that he can do this kind of thing and I can't. Once he lays it out and explains it, it makes sense, but I could never develop it myself.

Question for Bob or anyone: Is Mantra thinking similar to propaganda techniques (later called public relations?) We all need to understand the analysis and social dynamics that go into a crafting a message the way Bob understands it. If anyone can point me to lectures he has made I would appreciate it. The more we understand the PRINCIPLES behind what he does, the better.

It's ALL about F-O-C-U-S people! If BUGS is a cult, then I am Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

Coniglio and HD, you have some serious thinking to do. You think coach is ruthless?! You think this is a CULT?! Seriously? Consider the stakes here, would ya?! It's spelled "White genocide." What part of political warfare DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?!! Can either of you spell "discipline?!" What part of MARKETING don't you get?! Who's still sipping the kool aid? Derpa Derp... duhhhh.....

A few of you are lucky you have never met me. Because I am spitting mad after having checked back in here. And I make Ole Bob look like a walk in the park when I get pissed. And I'm pissed. Some of you would be icing some serious contusions if I could throw chairs through that monitor of yours right now.

Get back on task! If your little microprocessors can't handle the heat in Bob's blog area, THEN GET THE HELL OUT OF THE KITCHEN! Enough.

Coaches don't babysit, real coaches don't hand out participation trophies. Coaches don't pat you on the back for doing what you are suppose to do, coaches tear into you for costing the team points.

Although I am new to BUGS, it doesn't appear to be a cult. BUGS is using the cultist tools against the RELIGIOUS dogmatic cult of political correctness, fire with fire, to bring down the cult. BUGS is about dezombifying the zombies. When Bob mentions Mantra thinking... i think that's what he means

Genseric, how about you read what I said before you misrepresent it. Would that be fair? I know that's hard to do when you're bouncing off the walls, ceiling, and floor, but try.

If you don't think BUGS has some attributes of a cult, then you are ignorant of cults.

You might also note that I didn't state that as a criticism, but as something I said I thought was good at this point. That's something I've said before.

And of course I never said Bob was ruthless, nor do I think that.

Try looking at things as they ARE, instead of viewing them through whatever swarm of feelings you're caught up in at the moment.

For god's sake, let's not get caught up in discussing whether Bugs is a cult or not. It's basically a meaningless, irrelevant discussion. Bugs is not a cult. You won't need to be deprogrammed from it to return to being White and normal!

I was never obsessed about You Know Who, not even before the Mantra era in my practical politics life.

Now I simply stay on message and enjoy smashing anti-Whites verbally with the Mantra.

My main concern however, is infighting and flame wars among pro-Whites. The downside of the Internet is that everyone is Big Shot, you know what I mean.

My ONLY objections are generally about what I perceive as gratuitous attacks against other websites.

In my humble opinion, if we really are concerned with what WORKS, then we'd better have realized by now that constant, bitter criticism is often self-sabotaging.

To be honest. I'm not really all that interested in "The Jews." I've met too many White anti-Whites to be worried about "The Jews."

I'd be willing to bet that 85% of the anti-Whites we've met are in fact white, give or take 5%.

Are people really THAT worried about "The Jews" after confronting all these white anti-Whites?

I mean why are people really obsessed about "The Jews" anyway? I think in most cases, it's because they are just anti-White.

Perhaps we should make a little catch phrase to try to get our Jew-obsessed friends more concerned about anti-Whites. Maybe something along the lines of

"Jews have been giving us financial problems

for hundreds of years and we've survived

Anti-whites have been genociding us for 60

and in another 60 we may not be alive.

Who's the bigger problem here?

"Anti-semites" aren't supposed to be anti-Whites

but if they don't want to stop our genocide,

what's the difference?

Could "Anti-semite" be a codeword for anti-White?

"Anti-racist" is a codeword for anti-white.

That's my idea anyways. I think I'm just going to go post the mantra and report back here whenever I can.

@ Genseric: You're right about one thing, though: "F-O-C-U-S."

Once again I've let my limited energy get caught up in these damned threads.

I'm sick right now, but when I recover I'm going to try once again to stay away from all threads here except the working thread. Most of you have energy enough to post on these threads and swarm too. I don't.

I do some work at White GeNOcide Project, and with the energy I have left over I mostly yammer on these threads instead of swarming. I'm sick of it.

@ Genseric: as for the other thing, I was so amused (okay, entertained) by Coniglio's comparing us to Jonestown that I probably did respond to that in a more positive tone than was appropriate. To me it was amusing hyperbole. To Coniglio, I fear it may not be hyperbole.

But the point is, we shouldn't even be caught up in all that mess. There's plenty of opportunity for entertainment on the working thread. And the threads to Bob's posts, I can see now are not integrating into the main F-O-C-U-S as they should.

I recommend again, as just a starter, that it be made a point of honor that no one post on any thread here unless they've posted, spoken, or otherwise spread the Mantra somewhere and reported it in the last 24 hours. Maybe make that enforceable, if necessary and it doesn't load too much work on to BoardAd.

I'm not self-disciplined, and it's obvious that some others here are not either, and I'm inclining to the view that a much stricter regime needs to be imposed that focuses on F-O-C-U-S.

Bob writes a post every day which is more than he would prefer to do, and he should at least allow himself the freedom to write whatever he wishes. Because of who [Bob] is, there will be things in almost all of his posts that relate to Mantra thinking. Let's make it a second point of honor to always try to extract those things in our comments to his posts, and write about those things, and encourage each other to remember to do that. F-O-C-U-S.

Let's make that our second point of honor!

So I recommend two points of honor:

1. no one posts anything anywhere here unless they have at least taken the short moment required to drop a mini-mantra somewhere, like youtube, during the past 24 hours. A too-small requirement, since a slew of posts elsewhere as well would be desirable, but a beginning

2. Anyone who wants to comment on one of Bob's daily posts reads his post through twice, carefully, looking for mantra thinking in it until he finds it, and then writes about THAT.

"I don't see any Mantra thinking in this comment" is certainly an excellent comment, since it's the beginning of being taught something. My own first post would probably be, "Can someone explain to me in two short sentences what Mantra thinking is."

Look guys, please don't just let my post sit here uncommented on. The site needs some changing, and Genseric is right that that change needs to be toward FOCUS.

It seems clear the admin is very much on that idea too, and has the oomph and the caring to help carry it out.

So let's figure out how to do it. I offer my two ideas. Disagree or agree?

Hi Bob...Don't worry too much about this. The only reason that so many of our people bitch solely about the jews is simply because they have been out front and center in their total advocacy of this hideous system of White genocide that has been rammed down the throats of White people and our children. They have been used as leg men as Horus has put it. But what we are now finally coming to understand is that there is a much powerful group above the joos that have been calling the shots at the top of Western civilization...The White anglo-elites...AND THEY GOTTA GO!!! Once we rid ourselves of their evil influence and their vile banking and social engineering schemes the joos will have no power over our race whatsoever. But to do all of this we all need to get on the consistent message that is contained in the Mantra so that we can destroy the 'spell' that White people have been put under by these evil anti-White western leaders and their various front-groups...that just happens to include one group that goes by the name of Jews.

Keep up the great work Bob because we are finally starting to win simply by using the Mantra...I should know because I use it constantly on the Internet and destroy the anti-White enemy at will.

Cheers

I am going to clarify my statement about Jonestown. Obviously it was somewhat exaggerated for effect but there is no doubt that BUGS has taken on some aspects of a cult. In fact most aspects of a cult but I have been calling them 'cult-like' tendencies to be polite.

Where do these tendencies come from?

My explanation is that the mantra is a powerful psychological weapon. Like a great sword most people cannot wield it. Like other weapons the mantra can affect those who wield it as well as those against whom it is directed. For some reason it does not have the same effect on everyone and some people seem to have immunity. This conclusion is based on numerous observations both here and in the field.

I should point out that I am not the only one who has noticed this. A number of other people have reported 'cult-like' behavior by members of the Swarm including aggression and hostility towards other pro-Whites who are not currently participating in the Swarm.

We even have a label for them now and that is the AMPW (anti-Mantra pro-Whites) which creates two groups of people. Us and them and they are the enemy. I have actually seen a few Swarm members suggesting that we should blame the AMPWs for White genocide and hold them responsible for their actions (as in putting them on trial or whatever).

What is causing this rather extreme reaction?

I have observed psychological manifestations of coercive persuasion in members of the BUGS Swarm. Obsessive compulsive behavior, unfounded hostility towards outsiders, paranoia, mania and post traumatic stress disorder.

Studies have identified a number of key steps in coercive persuasion:

1. People are put in physical or emotionally distressing situations;

The White race is being genocided

2. Their problems are reduced to one simple explanation, which is repeatedly emphasized;

The mantra, the mantra, the mantra

3. They receive what seems to be unconditional love, acceptance, and attention from a charismatic leader or group;

Bob (as long as they repeat the mantra)

4. They get a new identity based on the group;

Bugsters

5. They are subject to entrapment (isolation from friends, relatives and the mainstream culture) and their access to information is severely controlled.

Spending all day on the computer spreading the mantra

Certain members here have virtually lost the ability to think independently. They are just as brainwashed as the typical anti-White is except in a way that helps our cause instead of hurts it.

They have programmed to think that 'the mantra' is all that matters.

Now I never said that this is a good thing or a bad thing since it could increase the effectiveness of the Swarm but at the same time it has the potential to self-destruct altogether.

Now since Bob is the expert on psychological warfare he should know what is going on here.

As far as the AMPW, it seems they are more concerned with discussing minor details rather than the big picture. They think they can change minds through minor details. I would tend to think those are the people you don't want spreading the mantra anyway, so there is no use complaining that they aren't jumping on board. They are the ones likely to turn away from the mantra and start discussing nose physiognomy or cranial anthropometry and expect to keep the audiences attention. I think once they start seeing it enter mainstream, they'll be bandwagoneers, it's just a simple peer pressure thing.

This method has been PROVEN, this is NOT an "experiment" . BNP started repeating the phrase "indigenous british" over & over, and it gradually started to appear in mainstream media. All of the mantra "counter-arguments" like "there is only one race" came from the same process that we are involved in now.

A month or so ago, Mr Whitaker had an entry "The mantra is not a Program!"... maybe I am one of those "OCD" types Conglio is mentioning, but I personally do see it as a program for the reasons i mentioned above. Am I wrong for that?

Hold up, first of all DEFINE "cult." And then tell me why these so-called "cults" only exist in White children's countries, White children's schools, White children's churches, and White children's homes.

Lol. Just kidding, sort of. But seriously, no one's making anyone do or say anything on BUGS. We're all here of our own free will, fighting the genocide of our people the way we think works best.

Getting spitting mad doesn't help or change a damn thing. I'm new to this whole deal but from what I've gathered it's almost always a bad move to get mad when trying to make a point (or even arguing). Especially when other parties are keeping their heads. It reflects badly on you and whatever point(s) you're trying to make.

As for the Jewish Question, I've refrained from expressing my opinions on the matter thus far and didn't plan on doing so any time soon. That being said, I think it could be beneficial to do so at this point, since it seems to be such a problem here.

I'm about adamant on the Jewish Problem as they come. I woke up to the Jewish Problem before I was racially conscious. My racial awareness came from learning about the Jewish Problem. I am also very pro-Hitler, probably more than anyone here.

Now, does that mean I need to wave swastikas around and scream about Jews all the time? No. I am first and foremost interested in securing the existence of our people and a future for White children. I'm interested in doing what works. And I'm convinced the Mantra and mini-mantras WORK.

WHEN a person I know/encounter seems like they are ready for or open to learning about the JP, then I bring it up in a way I think will work for reaching them. But with the majority of people sticking to the Mantra and mini-mantras is far more effective 90 + percent of the time. Not only is the Mantra phrased in such a way to make it extremely effective but it's also tailored to a more basic and fundamental issue: fostering a will to survive. Our own will to survive is more important than those pulling the strings and leading the assault against it. Does this mean identifying our main external enemy is not important? No, but it does assume you understand the very basic concept that our own survival trumps revenge and all else.

Besides, most intelligent (and even a lot of unintelligent) Whites will come to similar conclusions about Jews once they become racially aware. There are millions of resources for the Jewish Question. It's difficult NOT to become aware once becoming racially aware if you're the type of person that asks questions. They don't need my help becoming aware of the JP (unless they ask for it). We need to focus on waking other Whites up to stopping the genocide against our people. Even if they never get beyond that, that will make a huge difference that they are pro-White.

A question we should all ask ourselves is what's more important, our race's survival or the Jew's? There is something fundamentally unhealthy about a person who hates their enemy more than they love themselves and their own.

David Duke is a great example of someone who consistently hammers the Jews day in and day out, and stays on a consistent, pro-White message. He's someone my fellow Jew-aware comrades should pay attention to. His approach may APPEAR soft, but it works. It's getting a hell of a lot more support and waking more people up than all the attempts using swastikas and extreme sounding or appearing approaches.

That being said, I think sticking to the Mantra, mini-mantras, and the basics (staying on point etc.) will be the MOST effective use of our time. You see, it's an easy jump from getting on board with the fundamentals on BUGS to Dr. Duke's message on who is our (and the every people's) biggest external enemy. So don't sweat it. I know I certainly didn't come here to read/post a million infighting comments and argue with people. I came here to fight White genocide.

I'm convinced that Bob knows what he's talking about concerning the Mantra and is a huge asset we should be utilizing and learning from. We would be morons not to. That being said, I don't have to like or agree with all of his posts on his blog. Hell, I don't have to like Bob as a person. I don't know him nor do I have any reason not to like him, but that's beside the point. Being able and willing to learn from someone you don't like is a fundamental part of being a mature adult, and of success period.

So maybe we should all (including all the "SHHHHH DON'T EVER TALK ABOUT WHO JOOS!!!" crowd) refrain from offering our two cents on issues like this where we won't make any headway anyway and start using what we know WORKS.

I think emphasizing that bringing up Jews is almost always off-message at this point, but not attacking or disproportionately reacting to those who recognize them for what they are is the way to go.

Back to work.

@Coniglio,

I'm frustrated about any kind of infighting and gratuitous aggressiveness among pro-Whites IN GENERAL.

I think the TONE of the criticism about other websites was unnecessary and unfortunate.

Your "analysis" of what is going on in BUGS is, however, so over the top that it makes me wonder what are you doing here in the first place. As of now, no one is forced to be here nor do what we do.

"Why don't we just do what Dr. Duke does? Why do we use the Mantra instead?"

"Why do we respect so highly Dr. Duke and what he does, despite the marked difference in our methods?"

Beefcake's latest podcast does a truly bang-up job on these questions. He's clear and thorough.

http://whitegenocideproject.com/beefcakes-bootcamp-episode-12-topics-to-avoid/

One last thing here, and i know the new post about multiple comments but im gonna do this anyway.

All of the "criteria" coniglio put up there, basically describes ANY team.

1. People are put in physical or emotionally distressing situations;

WIDE RECEIVER... lots of sprinting and hard hits

2. Their problems are reduced to one simple explanation, which is repeatedly emphasized;

GET OPEN

3. They receive what seems to be unconditional love, acceptance, and attention from a charismatic leader or group;

COACH SAYS "GOOD CATCH"

4. They get a new identity based on the group;

NUMBER ON JERSEY

These aren't qualifications for a CULT. Mr Whitaker even pointed out in this posting that there were few comments on him complimenting people, so there goes that idea about people needing affirmation/attention. Mr Whitaker has yet to claim he is JESUS. This FORUM isn't a branch dravidian compound & there is no coercion going on here.

I've played both high school and college basketball. I've seen coaches scream at my teammates and I, where in at least one case (in High School), I remember a player bursting out in tears. I saw a coach slap a teammate in the face for being too soft.These coaches demanded excellence and when we made stupid mistakes, we would hear about it. The meanest coach I ever had (and most demanding) now coaches at a very high level (he won a lot and made his players better and went from coaching high school JV teams to Div 1 College in 10 years).

I see Bob as being no different than any of these coaches. He demands excellence and when we make stupid mistakes, we hear about it. DON'T TAKE IT PERSONALLY! Just like these coaches I had, Bob wants to win and make you better.

Now for the troll situation. Because our enemy cannot handle our message outright they will use dirty tricks. Trolling is one such dirty trick. And the sophistication of the trolls will increase. As you see with the current troll, he was here a long time and even took time to spread the Mantra in the past.

In fact, trolls will use spreading the Mantra as there pretext to be here to engage in trolling activities. They'll spread the Mantra one minute, and then start attacking other pro-Whites the next (or engage in other trolling activities).

Eventually what we'll see is a troll or a couple trolls (who used to post here or do at this time) start websites committed to smearing BUGS or FTWR. Their main purpose will be to keep others from staying on our message. In fact, there will be people who posted here for years who will one day turn on us and start stirring shit against BUGS.

They'll say "don't start posting at BUGS, those people are all cult members...I used to post there..stay away...BUGS is there to keep you from discussing the Jews...Whitaker is a Jew...blah,blah,blah..etc,etc."

You guys need to remember that this is a legitimate war. The enemy (anti-Whites) can not handle our message. All they can do is use dirty tricks against us while trying to censor us. And as the message spreads farther (and the anti-White system starts collapsing even faster), the dirty tricks will become MORE DIRTY and more sophisticated.

Wars require disciplined personnel to carry out a plan of action in order to neutralize an enemy system. Wars are stressful and uncertain. But we (pro-Whites) are willing to accept the stress and uncertainty because we feel/believe/understand the importance of saving our race (by destroying the anti-White system by disseminating the mantra to the tipping point).

We will disseminate the Mantra to the tipping point.

We will disseminate the Mantra to the tipping point.

We will disseminate the Mantra to the tipping point.(1)

(1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tipping_Point

My post isn't going up on Debate and Style, or Beefcake's Bootcamp.

Is this purposeful, or a snafu?

I hope it's okay if I put it here...it's off topic.

I'm thinking of dropping the term "pro-White" and always using instead the term "White-and-normal."

My thoughts on it are in the second post below (the posts are from a thread on White GeNOcide Project), and I would appreciate any of your thoughts on the idea. At this moment, I'm very fired up at the thought of spreading the term "White-and-normal" as the single antonym of the single term "anti-White"!

Nothing evokes the hatred that fills anti-White hearts so much as seeing a pro-White in possession of the moral high ground.

Anti-Whites think their worship in the church of PC gives them automatic title to the moral high ground!

Of course actually, it places them in humanity's sewer along with all who are traitors to their own people.

White GeNOcide!

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White!

REPLY

This term "pro-White" has bothered me ever since some of us adopted it. I think to visitors who aren't already "pro-White," it conjures up all the usual associations of Whites who would run roughshod over all other races, who might even want race war, etc., all the things that are not what we are about at all.

Even though it's a bit unwieldy, I'm going to try for awhile using the term "White-and-normal" instead and see how that sounds. So,

"Nothing evokes the hatred that fills anti-White hearts so much as seeing a White-and-normal in possession of the moral high ground."

I like it! It's sort of a double whammy!

Feedback is appreciated.

Hm, maybe better would be, "White who is normal," and "Whites who are normal"? At least until those phrases become well known? Yes, it's a bit of writing, but...

Nothing evokes the hatred that fills anti-White hearts so much as seeing a White who is normal in possession of the moral high ground.

No, I think "White-and-normal" works better.