THE ROBERT W. WHITAKER ARCHIVE

MANTRA THINKING AS A RESPONSE | 2013-05-14

No critic of Bob's Mantra has ever replied with anything but insults and labels.

The above sentence should read, "No critic of Bob's Mantra has ever replied with anything but insults and labels."

The difference is the quotes.

I wish I were quoting a BUGSER who isn't Bob.

I have gotten paid, and punished, for coming up with stuff all my life.   Today I literally live for you doing this yourself using Mantra Thinking.

I love it when YOU come up with Mantra Thinking.  It beats the hell out of Christmas.

I have written endlessly about Reagan had to put, "Mr.  Gorbachev, tear down this wall" back in his own speech THREE TIMES because his staff kept cutting it out behind his back.   Imagine how much trouble I had insisting that the fact that every Communist state shot anyone who tried to escape was fatal to them was attacked.

So instead of just reacting to my mention of Communism to talk about Communism, why hasn't any BUGSER said, "If diversity  is so great, why do we have white flight?   Why must diversity be enforced?"

You need to think of WHY I say these things!

When someone praises his "working outside the box," a BUGSER will wonder, "What in the HELL are we doing in a BOX?"

Look at our comments and see how often they talk about the box.

Meanwhile, the mainstream media talks about the hundreds of thousands who have been on Stormfront or watched White Rabbit videos versus the barely 400 on the White House petition.

But no BUGSER has pointed out the OBVIOUS difference.   People who agree with the petition are AFRAID to sign the petition.   The only answer they will  get is labels and insults.

USE the points I make!

This is a seminar, not a stream of thought vacation.

COMMENTS (33)

#1 Asgardian117 | 2013-05-14 12:18

"fear of siging the petition" Thats something i dont quite understand, if the reasoning for NOT siging the petition is out of fear of being "found out" you might as well stop everything that you are doing. From the moment you made your first YT post or visited bugsswarm you were exposed, if THEY wanna know who you are they will find out, but thats the beauty of it ANY attempt to supress or restrict what we are saying would lead to a cascading system failure, they cant address it and they WERE trying to ignore it that didnt work lol, now they have been reduced to feet stomping and name calling. And when anti whites say "well you only have 400 ppl siging the petition" my response is "of course their are only 400 ppl RIGHT NOW normal white people are terrified of the anti white policies that you champion but as you can see MORE and MORE of us are now breaking the silence, normal white ppl are watching the comments and after seeing what you have to say its a fargone conclusion that you have already lost"

#2 Simmons | 2013-05-14 15:02

The petitions can be massaged in language to match what the "normals" already know and understand about the anti-whites.

Go and read the comments on any black violence against whites, folks listen up, that is a ready made audience for our concepts.

Stretch the Group Harm part of the genocide law to include the DOJ's refusal to bring hate crime charges against any black terrorists when the victim is white.

Not only will this satisfy mantra think it also plays into the GOP versus the Ds mindset as the conservative types can stick a finger in the eye of Holder.

Folks we are just allowing people to state the obvious, safely. Also IMO this takes the petitions up to big boy level, being my belief that foreign intel services always look for divisions within another country's populations, don't get carried away with thinking we will be in a Ludlum novel, just don't be suprised about a hysterical reaction.

#3 jo3w | 2013-05-14 15:45

This goes along with the argument," if White people are so bad, then why do we need to build walls to keep people out?" I have used these arguments, but I feel they have not had the desired effect. I wonder if its because they cannot get that it's not the pace it's the people. This stuff is rudimentary for us but if it is not appealing to the masses then there must be another way.

#4 Daniel Genseric | 2013-05-14 17:58

"If America is so "free," then why aren't whites free to live and work together?"

"If America "Celebrates Diversity," then why aren't Europeans allowed to immigrate and assimilate?"

"If America is so "Tolerant," then why aren't white countries tolerated?"

Only in every white country are the citizens expected to unquestioningly accept "anti-racist" code words which aim to disguise one thing and ONLY one thing, white genocide. They say they are anti-racist while they work to secure Our Future. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

#5 Skippy 01 | 2013-05-15 01:36

But no BUGSER has pointed out the OBVIOUS difference. People who agree with the petition are AFRAID to sign the petition. The only answer they will get is labels and insults.

USE the points I make!

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I do. Sometimes we forget to say thank you. So thank you.

#6 Sentinel | 2013-05-15 01:50

Political Correctness says that White genocide is the most honorable of all causes and that opposing White genocide is the most despicable of all acts. But the average person thinks that PC is actually all about preventing hurt feelings.

Folks would do well to stop FEELING (guilt, shame, peer pressure, etc) and start THINKING. Anti-Whites brainwash through emotion; clearly not through logic.

Mantra thinking is a lens.

#7 Epiphany | 2013-05-15 04:31

The anti-Whites soon will deny the very existence of the physical world itself! That is the lunacy of denying racial differences leads to in the end. They will have to, as more and more scientific evidence begins to support us.

#8 Asgardian117 | 2013-05-15 07:57

They already have lol they are starting to slowly churn out "theories" that everything we know may be a computer simulation....im not bullshitting you lol

#9 Epiphany | 2013-05-15 08:40

They must really get into the Matrix movies!

#10 Epiphany | 2013-05-15 04:44

The irony is that sexism, male chauvinism, mysogyny and all the things that Feminists claim to hate are being reintroduced via those dark skinned immigrants who keep coming. Why would any think Feminism and Multiculturalism are compatable?

One day, African Americans will have a program to send their people back to Africa. After all, Hispanics are competing for the low level jobs that they used to have, before they got onto Welfare Rolls.

The Mantra is a stroke of genius! One really perceives the idiocy of diversity when you read it.

#11 John White | 2013-05-15 06:01

What I get from this post by Mr. Whitaker is that Mantra Thinking is not about complicated analysis but sharpening observation.

Some friends of mine trained themselves to watch movies focusing on detecting errors. They got lots of fun with that practise. I was shocked when they explained to me the astonishing number of errors that movies have. Errors that nobody else detected. Even with films that I had seen so many times without detecting any error.

I think Mantra Thinking works in a similar way.

#12 Epiphany | 2013-05-16 18:44

That is really neat to think about. What precise errors do they find in most movies?

#13 D. Logsdon | 2013-05-15 10:23

I've got a mantra thinking idea for you. Stop using the term "White Flight" it's like saying someone who jumps off a building was killed because the ground ran into them. Black flight is caused by Blacks trying to escape living among their own kind. Whites move in reaction to Black flight to keep living with their own kind. The implications of registering this idea are enormous follow the thought.

#14 dungeoneer | 2013-05-15 17:02

White people take flight from...

#15 D. Logsdon | 2013-05-15 11:00

Yea now I get it! (sarcasm from years of trying to get this point across) The Mantra teaches that whites are being systematically wiped out, dis-enfranchised from all their rights and political power. The question for you closed minded insulated Bugsters' is: What happens when you achieve your goal and it becomes an accepted truth? Unfortunately not enough. Those whites who have already been brainwashed ( a large segment of who we must eventually reach) will quietly conclude it's all for the better anyway (that their race is being wiped out) since "whites are the true evil in the world and the cause of the world's instability".

If you're really paying attention the logical next step is to rub it in their face that the object or "victim" of all this subjugation and discrimination will do anything to get away from living with his own kind. That and only that thought as a companion to the Mantra (the two concepts support one another) will reach the brainwashed whites.

Stop dismissing ideas that come outside of your circle of Busters your arrogance will cost us the war.

#16 dungeoneer | 2013-05-15 17:14

GENOCIDE!

#17 Dave | 2013-05-15 14:20

D Logsdon,

"Black flight" is what Malcom X was against until he acquired a career. Then he changed his mind. Too bad for black people.

Like all nonwhites speaking European languages, they wear the face of the white race.

Martin Luther King was the bigger fraud. He stepped on black people more cruelly than we whites could ever have done. Unfortunately, very few of us whites understand that.

These self-hating whites are like a friend of mine who kept bragging that he was not afraid of death. That was until I accidently fell asleep at the wheel and drove him over a mountain cliff. He suddenly changed his mind, grabbed the wheel from me, and saved us. It was hilarious to watch his furious anguish as he berated me for being so reckless.

It's all theoretical until it isn't. The Mantra is about it ceasing to be theoretical. Robert Whitaker knows politics. He is out in front.

#18 John White | 2013-05-15 15:18

D. Logsdon :

you closed minded insulated Bugsters

(...)

your circle of Busters your arrogance will cost us the war.

Bob said: "No critic of Bob's Mantra has ever replied with anything but insults and labels".

So according to D. Logsdon, we will not have success because we only say "Stop White Genocide" when we should be saying "Stop White Genocide because non-Whites are inferior to us".

Yeah, I wonder why we haven't thought about that already. It would definitely take us much further.

#19 Asgardian117 | 2013-05-15 17:09

The reason we say stop white genocide is

1.Its violating international law

2.All other non white countries will continue to be homogenous while white countries will cease to exsist, no1 is attacking the non white factories

3.Its WRONG....what have UNBORN WHITE CHILDREN done to deserve this where is the moral high ground?

#20 daedalus | 2013-05-17 09:57

I do NOT say stop White Genocide

BECAUSE it violates international law.

Stop White Genocide. I am White. Irrespective of so-called 'international law', I have a RIGHT to LIFE.

Stop the Genocide of My People, Stop White Genocide.

#21 D. Logsdon | 2013-05-15 18:36

14 words!!!!!

I will kindly respond to any Bugster that wishes to win the war not win an argument to protect their own ego.

Mr. White I didn't criticize the Mantra what I suggested was that if you are completely successful in that effort you have marginally moved the ball a yard or two down the field. In my estimation and observation for the last four or five years it has been working. I applaud that. Try to get over the insult you perceive about the Mantra and follow the thought through. I use the rough approach because your group won't listen to anyone outside the group seriously. No one here is suggesting that you stop the Mantra or rationalize your reason for using it. I get it, yes Genocide! The criticism is that the vast majority of the non-white population of the world is racially motivated and racially aware. Many of the powers that be in the non-western culture fully believe in Genocide or subjugation as a valid stratagem even in this century. We will never have an effect on that part of humanity. After reading all the responses and points in each I find zero understand the issue and your statements have absolutely nothing to do with my point.

It is as usual you all swarm to protect your Mantra and Bob instead of following a point. Get it straight the Mantra is fine, it works, it is not the end of the fight it is just the first punch landed in a decade or so. Yes landing the first blow is immensely important and maybe the Mantra was the only thing to accomplish that but now it is time to admit the next blow must follow quickly or even at the same time.

Debate the actual point if you will.

Here is the essence of the point:

If everyone in the US and every Western Nation agreed with the logic of the Mantra would it logically follow they would find white genocide wrong?

The answer is no! Not if they believe via their conditioning that whites are the problem!!!!!!!!!

Next problem: how do you convince the brainwashed that whites aren't evil or "the problem"? If you can't accomplish that -Why would they care if we were wiped out?

Pro white entities have tried for half a century or more trying to show the true side of race. Where have we progressed accept among ourselves?

Last point since they won't listen to a white man tell them about history how can we get them to first accept the possibility that whites aren't the problem. You have to get them to see that Blacks don't really believe it either. How do we prove that? We point out that virtually every successful Black man marries a white woman and moves to the whitest area he can afford as song as he can.

I won't respond any further if you can't argue the point at hand.

And by the way I have nothing but respect for Bob but the point here is to further his work. You don't have to make a living in politics to qualify your contributions. I believe Dr. William Pierce had a few good points as well. (sarcasm) Unless my study is missing something he was not from a similar background as Bob.

#22 Jason | 2013-05-15 19:51

tl;dr

#23 dungeoneer | 2013-05-15 21:11

Post the mantra.

#24 Thecimmerian | 2013-05-15 19:33

Hi bob i'm not sure this is the right spot for this a its technically not a qna but, in daily conversation when discussing white genocide, I have used "It's funny people are perfectly willing to believe that Hitler is perfectly psycho enough to kill all the Jews but not that there are people who would want to genocide whites"

Should I veer away from this or do you feel it is a good way to get whites understanding that white genocide is happening (on top of the mantra etc. ofc)

#25 dungeoneer | 2013-05-15 21:08

Why is it "funny" if whites are unaware they`ve been targeted for genocide when the anti-white regime has for decades been engaged in social engineering and oppression?

Time to read the mantra again?

#26 daedalus | 2013-05-17 10:03

Why not TRY IT.

Evaluate the response(s)

And modify accordingly.

Your are WHITE. Right?

Then, Think, ACT, Evaluate.

#27 dungeoneer | 2013-05-18 18:19

And you recommend mixing up white genocide and Hitler killing Jews in our discussions with our fellow white citizens as well?

It`s done (in a very specific way) in the Anti-racist Hitler cartoon, but that is a different thing to everyday mantra work.

#28 Asgardian117 | 2013-05-15 19:56

D.logsdon...one of the most important parts of the mantra is that it FORCES ANTI WHITES to state their TRUE intentions in front of other white people, ANY ATTEMPT to debate it means that you support white genocode. If every western nation agreed with the mantra than YES, they would find white genocide wrong, because when a white person agrees with the mantra the conditioning has been BROKEN, thats the BEAUTY of it, our goal is to FIRST change public opinion and give them toola to use to stand up for themselves, when that happens AND HAPPEN IT WILL, the snow ball we have been rolling up hill will take off on its own.

#29 John White | 2013-05-16 05:55

D. Logsdon :

14 words!!!!!

I will kindly respond to any Bugster that wishes to win the war not win an argument to protect their own ego.

Ad hominem fallacy.

Try to get over the insult you perceive about the Mantra and follow the thought through. I use the rough approach because your group won't listen to anyone outside the group seriously.
Ad hominem fallacy.

Anti-Whites AND Anti-Mantra Pro-Whites always use that "argument" to divert our focus and make us ineffective.

Many of the powers that be in the non-western culture fully believe in Genocide or subjugation as a valid stratagem even in this century. We will never have an effect on that part of humanity.
We know.
After reading all the responses and points in each I find zero understand the issue and your statements have absolutely nothing to do with my point.
In your opinion.

You only say that because we didn't fall for your deliberate misdirection and sabotage.

If everyone in the US and every Western Nation agreed with the logic of the Mantra would it logically follow they would find white genocide wrong?

The answer is no!

Frankly. I strongly doubt that you even READ the Mantra and our talking points.
Not if they believe via their conditioning that whites are the problem!!!!!!!!!
That's IN the Mantra.

Next problem: how do you convince the brainwashed that whites aren't evil or "the problem"?
We are already doing that, with the Mantra.
I won't respond any further if you can't argue the point at hand.
Good! Please do take your toys and go home. You will find plenty of buddies to play with at Stormfront or even better, VNN.

We are a small group and, according to you, we will accomplish nothing of relevance. So why stick with us in the first place? Shouldn't you get away from us altogether?

#30 D. Logsdon | 2013-05-16 10:55

Mr. White,

"I will kindly respond to any Bugster that wishes to win the war not win an argument to protect their own ego. "

That statement is not an Ad hominem fallacy. I attempted to set realistic rules for a discussion. I presume that your reasons for being a Bugster or identifying with Bugsters is to help the white race. Since my purpose is to personally aid in that goal I reserve the right to limit my time as to what I will spend my time discussing and being pertinent to that cause. The statement didn't attack you personally as would be required in an Ad hominem attack but expressed a warning that if the response statements were of personal interests like looking good or putting me in my place for ego I would not consider them valid. Choice on how to behave in the discussion was always up to you or anyone else participating. Nor was it a fallacy. It was not a statement of fact.

Your next statement to me however was a classic Ad hominem attack by suggestion of a false dichotomy that I was either an "Anti-White" or "Anti- Mantra White" Both of which were contradicted by my previous comments. I said the Mantra worked and made efforts to promote a concept that I don't think is addressed by the Mantra but could help to make it more effective if used as an additional talking point. You also used an Ad hominem attack when you stated that my efforts were deliberate "misdirection and sabotage".

"Many of the powers that be in the non-western culture fully believe in Genocide or subjugation as a valid stratagem even in this century. We will never have an effect on that part of humanity."

"We know."

Well then. . . if you know and I agree then why can't another pro white suggest that the issue is not --"in my opinion"-- being sufficiently addressed?

"In your opinion"

Sorry to say that the retort (and this is not an Ad Hominem attack) "in your opinion" is not a valid counter to a point of contention. It is (not you but it) the childish equivalent of a school yard child saying "says you" in a verbal attack. Let me be clear if it was ever in doubt of course virtually everything I say is in my opinion unless it is a direct quote from someone else.

"Good! Please do take your toys and go home. You will find plenty of buddies to play with at Stormfront or even better, VNN. "

Once again an classic ad hominem attack you sum up with suggesting my motives are suspect and that I'm just suitable for those low brow groups ( I presume that's what you meant since you didn't state specific pejoratives as to why I should go to VNN or Stormfront ) or organizations so stop bothering Bugs with my thoughts.

That statement is a perfect example of why "in my opinion" Bugsters' (in my personal experience with them) are not interested in outsiders opinions.

As far as Linder, Black, HAC, Bob W. and Wallace all have valid ideas in part unfortunately all have blind sides on some issues. That is why all need to be receptive to ideas from outside Pro-Whites. Sadly that is rare.

In conclusion let me suggest that those at VNN, Stormfront or the Northwest Front are more in tune with your goals than those you debate every day to outreach to them is just as valid a strategy as it is to post the Mantra on Anti-white sites. People that share a goal can persuade or educate one another much more readily that those who are racial competitors and sometimes mortal enemies.

"We are a small group and, according to you, we will accomplish nothing of relevance. So why stick with us in the first place? Shouldn't you get away from us altogether?"

Maybe if you didn't "swarm" with outside pro-whites you wouldn't be such a small group. But you would have to listen and discuss without getting your feelings hurt when outsiders make observations. You (Bugs) currently have the baton in this relay we (whites) need you to do what you do, it has helped immensely but you need to address the point of "Black flight" and reject the concept of White Flight.

#31 swrr | 2013-05-16 18:52

Bob, here is a reply without insults.

THE COUNTER MANTRA

There is NO genocide against white people.

Nobody forces a white person to marry a non-white.

Nobody is stopping white people from having white children.

Nobody calls a white person racist for marrying another white person.

Nobody is forcing a white person to relocate in order to make room for a non-white person.

Nobody is rounding up people of white skin tone and send them to forced labor/death camps.

Look at GenocideWatch - no "White Countries" are at risk!

(http://www.genocidewatch.org/images/Countries_at_Risk_Report_2012.pdf)

"White genocide" is simply a fabrication with an evil purpose. So why is this far-fetched propaganda being spread with such energy by the BUGSters?

Let them explain it themselves:

-- "The Mantra is as serious as it gets. I would be mobilizing to crush the Mantra as a first priority if I were part of the opposition. It neutralizes the Nazi atrocity story, for it is also an atrocity story. The Mantra is an atoricty story that reverses the object. Whites instead of being the perpetrators of an atrocity are the VICTIMS of an atrocity."

So this is really meant to recreate legitimacy for the neo-Nazis. Don't fall for it!

Marrying whoever you want is a FREEDOM protected by UN HUMAN RIGHTS ACT.

Being brought up without being taught racist teachings is a CHILD'S HUMAN RIGHT.

Arguing for an apartheid vision is an internationally recognized CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY.

There is NO genocide against white people. Don't allow the neo-nazis to

legitimize themselves through a fabricated atrocity.

Let's protect all our human freedoms! Join us "Stop White Rabbit Radio" on FB!

#32 dungeoneer | 2013-05-17 19:36

Your convenient "forgetting" that the stated aim of your anti-white religion is ever-increasing non-whiteness in white countries while feigning innocence of genocide is an insult.

#33 Scythian | 2013-05-17 16:56

The biggest problem the Apartheid Gov't had was keeping blacks from other African countries OUT; blacks were more desperate to immigrate to Apartheid S.A. than Mestizos to the U.S. My guess is less so now.

When I was a kid some religious freaks rang the front door bell and handed me this little pamphlet with as Hannity would say "God's children" playing in the meadow. What these cultists were too brainwashed to realize is that the only way that diversity which THEY idealized would be maintained is if "God's children" were not playing in the same meadow or if the children in that meadow were RACISTS. And of course ONLY white communities are being FORCED and coerced into this GENOCIDE.