THE ROBERT W. WHITAKER ARCHIVE

Exactly, Jason.

You pulled out the one sentence Bob thought people might not understand and explained it perfectly.

"All of them think in terms of the Latest News.

A good rule from a pro: The more a person mentions Trump, the less use that person is to us.

The Mantra is a long term power move. Trump is Twitter.

Trump, may get elected, but he will be of no use to US.

If you can get Trump's attention, you are out of league on the totem pole

And if I could reach Trump or Perot, they would not change anything that needs changing.

Even if Trump is elected, he will be far less important in our future than those tens of thousands of Mantra calls we got out."

"The nominee then spends the period until the election backing off what he said in the primaries."

This picture reminds me of Sarkozy, who claimed he was all for stopping immigration into France and once elected he openly advocated for the destruction of France even to the point of threatening more coercive measures if racial interbreeding was not done voluntarily.

"But if we hadn't done this work, there is NO way Trump would be talking abut any of this."

The funny part is Trump said same thing: "If Trump didn't raise this issue (two weeks ago), no one would be talking about it." Trump, Trump, Trump.

I assume that is what Bob meant when he said it will be 1980 all over again. The only thing THEY are good at, is taking credit for the work of others.

Sarkozy would be useful to point out. Is there a rule that the tougher the conservatives talk, the more they turn traitor when they get power?

Reminds me of what Don Black said of his experience of tough talking WN. The tougher they talk, the faster they squawk when the Feds interview them.

I'm one of the ones Laura referred to who was enlightened by your explanation of that sentence by Bob. :)

It's unusual that I disagree with you about anything, but I do disagree that our work has been much of a factor in the Trump phenomenon.

I've always felt, correctly or not, that at any particular point in time we give ourselves more credit than we deserve for our actual accomplishment up to that moment.

I'm excited by the progress that "anti-white" is making in the mainstream now, and even "white genocide," but I'd guess that 95% of the White masses showing up at the Trump rallies have never heard the term "anti-white" yet, and virtually none of them have heard the term "white genocide" yet. Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe many of them have been influenced in some way by those who have heard the terms or have been influenced by those who have been influenced by the whole genocide understanding of our situation (and that last factor is what I may not be appreciating sufficiently: the far reach of the effect of what we've been doing). Unlike probably most of you, I don't have much contact with the world, but based on reports from others and what I've seen online myself, our memes are definitely spreading. I just don't think they've spread enough yet to have had much influence on the Trump phenomenon.

I think it's important to keep our feet on the ground and our noses to the grindstone.

I agree with Laura entirely:

The Mantra is a long term power move.

Always good not to get swept up in the current headlines. But I think our influence is greater than that. The SPLC thinks so!

This author claims that "internet trolls" on social media have been given voice by Trump.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2015/08/donald_trump_his_rise_demonstrates_the_alarming_success_of_internet_trolls.html

I've heard several media types express alarm over the "white nationalist" elements supporting Trump.

Can a candidate be drafted? I never heard of such a thing. Does the candidate need to approve it? Sounds crazy to me.

Bugs specializes in things people never heard of, and "White Genocide" sounds crazy to most people when they first hear it.

Maybe a newsman will ask him if he accepted the draft. Whatever he says, the question and answer is about AFP, and so it offers another opportunity for release of Mantra into the mainstream.

That's just one possibility. My notion is to try to get a seat in the middle of whatever madness is going on and see what it might lead to.

Pretty well every AFP Board Member has suggested Trump for vp

Bob, putting entirely aside the motivations of the board, do you think that could mostly offer some additional opportunities for Mantra, or mostly would likely impede it, or a mixture of both? And, if you could include some of your specific thoughts about either possibility, that would help me and I assume others here a lot. An audio on it would be absolutely great! No rush.

It can't help but be depressing to you, I would think, how little anyone on that board understands our Mantra work I'm sure, at least the several persons on the board that I'm somewhat familiar with. Bless Dr. MacDonald for what he does understand about the Mantra, and for his wonderful words about it in his recent article, but I doubt very much that even he fully appreciates the long-term power of what we're doing, if he even knows what we're doing (repeating, repeating, repeating, repeating)

I've learned from dealing with the Stalwarts that even among the pro-Whites who are willing to offer some help (and we still can't get even 150 of them to sign promptly each month) there are very few if any who understand what we're doing, much less understand the power of it. If you sometimes get depressed about the same inability among the AFP board, believe me I know the feeling...it's been my constant companion for about three years now, much less than your own long struggle, but long enough to make me feel that this blindness of even intelligent people to something that's so simple is one of the incomprehensible mysteries of the universe.

Since my arrival here just 4 years ago I've always thought this was likely to be a very long haul. I wasn't bothered that for a good while there was no effect that I could see, because I was confident that there eventually would be, and now as I posted above, I'm excited that our memes are visibly loose in the mainstream. I see little way of actually measuring what the effect of our memes is up to this point, but I'm confident that there is an effect and that it will grow.

I've always thought that we've always overestimated the effect we've had up to any particular date...I mention this again only because one person thought this opinion of mine important enough (I don't consider my opinion about this to be very important at all, since I hardly have my finger on the pulse of the American people, and I don't see the issue of how much effect our memes have had to date as being of major importance anyway) to contact me and try, unsuccessfully, to change my opinion, and so I've written this long essay to you to try to be sure that there is no misunderstanding (which has happened between me and you before) about what my views about any of the matters above actually are. Thanks if you've read this, I know that reading something so long isn't a pleasure.

Had Trump tried what he is doing 4 years ago the establishment would be yelling "racist" the fact that they are not is due to our work.

That may be true. That's a much more narrow claim than Jason's,

But if we hadn't done this work, there is NO way Trump would be talking about any of this.

I'm wondering what you think about the question in my comment that to me was the important question: could having Trump be endorsed by AFP as their VP be useful to us in leveraging Mantra into the mainstream?

My tentative opinion is that it would be, but since my comments are already filling this thread, I'll wait to see if others show interest by posting their own view and their reasons for their view.

I hope we're understanding each other. You posted above:

Trump, may get elected, but he will be of no use to US.

If you can get Trump's attention, you are out of league on the totem pole

I think he may be of use to us, as I've stated, but certainly not by "getting his attention."

I don't think there's likely any misunderstanding here of the difference.

I just googled "trump is racist" without the quotes and actually he's being called "racist" quite a bit.

But I agree that anti-Whites are using that word less, and are using "White supremacist" more, and it would certainly follow that Trump is being called "racist" less than he would be if that change hadn't taken place.

That's a weakening in the anti-White position (despite the fact that the "White Supremacist" meme is serving anti-Whites quite well at the present moment...that meme will weaken in time also), and I hadn't thought of that fact in Trump's case, I'll admit, so I thank you for that.

My nature also compels me to state that I've never agreed either that we have as much responsibility for the lessened use of "racist" as we've claimed. Plenty of Whites who had never heard our stuff were getting very tired of that word. But we certainly had some responsibility for it. Especially among media I would guess, come to think of it...I think they're more aware of us by far than the populace.

So hey, I could be completely mistaken! Maybe without BUGS the cacophony of "racist! racist! racist!" would have drowned Trump out by now and Whites would have been afraid to attend his rallies in numbers more than a few hundreds. That's possible.

But there's a lot more that's been happening in this country than just BUGS.

It doesn't really matter what I think about this. I'm trying to give you satisfaction of knowing that I am thinking about what you're saying.

I responded to Jason in the first place mainly because I think feeling unmerited glory sets people up for later feeling disillusioned.

And I have to promise myself and the rest of you to stop now until there's at least 10 more comments on this thread, because my presence here is getting ridiculous.

Bob and everyone else, should Trump be the AFP's VP choice, and why or why not?

I think what is happening is the people are caring less about PC. There was a study done recently where a Republican asked Trump supporters what they thought of various PC violations he committed and the subjects either did not care, or they approved. This terrified the fellow doing the study.

So the anti-Whites keep calling Whites names at this point, but perhaps it is no longer working like it used to, because we exposed the con.

"It can't help but be depressing to you, I would think, how little anyone on that board understands our Mantra work I'm sure, at least the several persons on the board that I'm somewhat familiar with."

This video might help the AFP if you can get them to watch it. John Angelo explains "memetics". He takes a scattergun approach and fights many things other than White Genocide so I hesitate to post it, however he explains what we are doing so anyone can understand it. Try it on the AFP and see if you get an Aha! moment from them.

The memetic war: get involved NOW!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1APlVL4ZdM

Yes exactly right. The SF crowd is not interested in doing years of lonely work to get something started.

Heck, I enjoy Trump sticking it to the Establishment too. But he is a "leader" in the sense Huey Long defined it: someone who figures out which way the crowd is going and jumps in front of them.

The people who hold real power are those that nudge the crowd in that direction in the first place.